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New Worlds “Super Saver” works out to be 2 cents more expensive than the single price unit.

New Worlds “Super Saver” works out to be 2 cents more expensive than the single price unit.

-avocado-on-toast-

They were supposed to raise the single price up to 2.99 and then show you how much of a deal they had on. This crap happens all the time in retail unfortunately.


BlueEther_NZ

and this is why we are having an inquiry into supermarkets and pricing


Netroth

We are? Source please! This shit gets on my nerves and I’d love to know all about that inquiry.


ttbnz

[We are](https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/430783/commerce-commission-to-investigate-supermarket-prices)


TheMeanKorero

Still a year on from the fuel inquiry into fuel prices and unless I'm mistaken I don't think they've made any noises about acting on that yet so I wouldn't hold your breath..


Phylaxx

This is why I moved from using a car to using an electric bike. I used to pay like $15 to go 40km now I pay about $0.24 to do the same distance without parking added on top.


LadyDragonDog75

I'm considering an electronic bike. Can you recommend a good brand please? I'm a short female if that matters!!


Phylaxx

I would honestly recommend getting a cheap donor bike and installing / getting someone to install a conversion kit. It'll be significantly more powerful and significantly cheaper then a store bought one. Also if it needs fixing then it's also cheaper because the parts are just standard. Depending on where you live I could even come and help with the conversion. I'm not saying a conversion is for everyone but you'll probably be happier with a conversion vs a store bought bike at a given price range.


kiwiluke

Mine is from WattWheels a Christchurch manufacturer (he sources parts from overseas and assembles them here) he has low step models which helps if you have short legs and the scout which I own also folds in half meaning you can fit in most cars for transportation. His after sales service is also the best I've ever experienced for any product


StomachNZ

Get a HikoBike. NZ (assembled) made and the best help and howtos imho


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Must be nice to live somewhere that rain doesn’t exist


Phylaxx

A good jacket goes a long way, in any case its actually quite refreshing on a hot day in the middle of summer.


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Clearly you live in Auckland where “rain” is a drizzle followed by sun to dry you out


Phylaxx

Well I never said an ebike was perfect for everyone.


seriousbeef

You haven’t been to Auckland much have you?


kiwibearess

I take my ebike most places in Christchurch and don't tend to get much wetter then if I drive (when I wear rain gear for biking) , given that bike parking is typically right outside my destination but car parking i have to park then walk anyway


eythian

Electric bikes should have no trouble with rain.


ItBeSethy

Yes the bike would be fine but you’ll get soaked


eythian

It's just a matter of dressing appropriately, millions of people do it every day in rainy places.


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hipshot_koiwoi

Including your spouse. Imagine your fella saying he’s gonna take you out to a nice dinner, so you thrown on a dress and he rocks up on e-bike 😂 hope you can double on those things


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CoffeePuddle

Cycling together can be pretty fun and there's always taxis but yeah I think dubbing on the handlebars in a fancy dress is definitely what would happen if someone's spouse didn't have a car.


TheMeanKorero

That's lovely. If I lived somewhere urban I'd do that as much as I can too.


WaterPenis420

I live in christchurch, and personally fuel here is cheaper than before the fuel inquiry. I did a NCEA level 2 Economics report on oligopolies in the fuel industry just after that report came out, from what I remember the main point was that fuel prices in the south island are overly high due to lack of competition. Since then, NPD have started moving down with their low prices to take advantage of this, which has driven down all gas prices.


marmar235

And you won't hear anything, as too much Taxes to be made.


HMR_hd

Scott have a great MTB style bike. High sitting position so good visibility, holds a decent charge and good range.


KittikatB

I'm Wellington and have been paying less for fuel for months now. Admittedly, I do have to be picky about where I buy, but the prices this year have been lower than they were last year.


TheMeanKorero

Yeah but that's due to global demand being vastly lower with the global pandemic. There's actually been no action taken.


hayster

They won't find much if anything though. Margins on produce are pretty slim even more so than years past.


IfIWereATardigrade

The Commission is investigating pretty much everything to do with Supermarket pricing and competition. That's way more than produce. Shady pricing also has a lot to do with marketing practices (fake sales, manipulative markups, careless advertising), that is about much more than just pricing things above a reasonable margin. It is also about whether Supermarkets are allowing fair market access to suppliers. And that's all suppliers, not just the ones selling vegetables. Plenty of scope there for all sorts of findings. [https://www.rnz.co.nz/programmes/the-detail/story/2018774704/sneaky-shady-shifty-supermarkets-are-under-scrutiny](https://www.rnz.co.nz/programmes/the-detail/story/2018774704/sneaky-shady-shifty-supermarkets-are-under-scrutiny)


codyc1515

Ah yes. The owners of each store are just millionaires because of no reason.


Hollow_Hubris

From what I hear, franchises and private businesses like New World are in the property business more than anything. There's a ton of money made leasing the land to franchise owners.


BountyHNZ

Ahhh so the franchise owners are poor, gotcha.


Hollow_Hubris

That's an entirely different issue and one worth discussing but it's not what we're discussing right now. We're talking about the price of produce. It fluctuates so much due to supply and demand. The actual mark-up is very minimal. This is why the price of vegetables can skyrocket from one day to the next and why it was suggested that this "investigation" would likely yield no results.


OddGoldfish

Isn't markup by definition a fluctuation due to supply and demand? Or do you mean the price the supermarket pays for produce fluctuates and their margin is small?


Hollow_Hubris

Markup is how much something is increased by to reach it's selling price from it's cost price. Margin only applies to profit. What I'm saying is the markup that supermarkets give to produce is small and that the price as a whole fluctuates because of supply and demand; the supermarkets pay more or less for produce and have to adjust the prices accordingly.


Gr0und0ne

Mostly because of landbanking and using the subsequent equity in the supermarket’s property value to build other investment portfolios. The margin on a supermarket is insignificant and used only as a cash flow guarantee to the banks.


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Are you fucking joking mate. Supermarket margin is massive.


Aquatic-Vocation

Yeah, this is why Napier has two countdowns literally across the road from each other. There's so much guaranteed business and margins aren't as slim as these companies would like you to believe. You can see this for yourself even just by looking at the massive per item price difference between the typical bulk wholesalers and regular supermarkets.


Noooooooooooobus

This is because they don’t want competition moving in if they close one of the stores down


TheMeanKorero

Uhh in my 10+ years I was in the industry working at 3 different new world's the target gross profit was 20%. And I would be very quite confident countdown would be the same if not lower due to there business model not being owner operated stores. It's all about the low profit high turnover, not many other places have there customers come back time after time after time buying the same product.


Aidernz

I love how you think you're an expert on this topic. Tell me, how many supermarkets do you own?


Representative_Bed92

My friend owns a pac n save. She is rich rich, not a bit rich, but rich rich. We need Aldi. We need competition. I live in a remote area, with one supermarket, we got new owners, and prices went up I estimate by 15% overnight. This is in one of the poorest areas of New Zealand.


nit4sz

As I understand it after talking to a couple of owners, you take out a mammoth loan to buy a supermarket, for 5-7 years you work hard, sloog it out, and pay back the loan. After that you earn profit. And if/when you sell, the entire sale price is profit too. The profit margin must be decent to pay off the loan in less than 10 years.


Primary_Engine_9273

Work hard and slog it out? As a supermarket owner? And this hard work and slogging means they can magically slack off after the 5-7 years when its paid off? You make it sound like they would otherwise do the job of a bunch of people like finance, managers etc so they don't have to pay an extra couple hundred thousand a year in salary. Yeah nah.


nit4sz

From what I understand its really long hours. Barely ever seeing family. They're paying off a couple million dollar loan, so yeah they are saving money. The fact that they can pay it off in such a short time says they are getting quite a but in money.


aether22

An acquaintance is I think married to a guy who owns a supermarket or 2, money to burn. They really do make a lot!


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Or.. maybe whoever sets the special prices made a mistake.. Big companies are run by humans, after all.


luckysurprise

It's funny how every supermarket pricing error I have seen always benefits the supermarket and never the customer.


Muter

What? I’ve had several “benefits the customer” situations. Here are two examples. 1. Old signage was left up when the product came off sale. I got the items for the sale price. 2. Incorrect sign was placed on product, providing a misleading price. I got the item for the misleading price. And a bonus 3. Signage wasn’t clear that it was advertising a specific brand, so I’ve purchased a more “luxury” brand for the budget price. Accidents happen


Das_Spit

My favorite was when I went to Pak n Save and the scales were obviously wrong which led to me getting a whole leg of lamb for $1.29 or something


27ismyluckynumber

So you were ripping off somebody down the line. Although that is a sweet supermarket hack.


aether22

Me too, but you didn't get those deals automatically! You had to bring up the fact that there is a mismatch between what you thought you would pay and what you actually did pay. This happened to me the other day, but I did have to complain about being charged at a price other than what I reasonably expected.


27ismyluckynumber

3 times. Whoop dee doo... wouldn't you prefer consistency?


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Supermarket: regularly has sales on thousands of products and no on bats an eye, messes up pricing occasionally by a couple of cents and everyone loses their minds.


27ismyluckynumber

Supermarket with a corporate office with an entire team of like 50 people who's one job is they have to check the pricing:


tacklinglife

It's more like the manager of the department and maybe an assistant..


aether22

I have seen Supermarkets (It was a Foodtown in Sunnynook) that intentionally put up misleading pricing, it was so blatant! They would have a cheap and expensive products together with misleading signage. I have also known Supermarkets to have specials that didn't ring up and on complaining they fixed us up but almost a week later buy it again and they still haven't fixed it, they were charging everyone any dollars too much for the whole period of the special. Not all Supermarkets are that bad, but it is a huge source of profit for them, it is underhanded but kills trust.


KatakataOTeWharepaku

If the reverse happened and they put an item on special that gave you a better deal than you were supposed to get, how would you notice?


-avocado-on-toast-

The mistake was not raising the price first. I used to work in a supermarket for a very long time. It's not uncommon practice. All retail do it. Just wait for the pricespy boxing day sales report of how many retailers raised prices so they could put HUGE sales on.


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I worked in management at a large NZ retailer for years. I can assure you, that doesn't happen. What you're probably referring to is prices going back to the normal retail price before the sale. Which is normal.. we're not going to offer a discount on top of a discount.Inflating the price beyond that before a sale is a breach of the Fair Trade Act. Retailers that do it get caught fairly quickly.


countzero2000

Correct. Foodstuffs are not stupid enough to do this as a policy. Store managers (or their underlings) make mistakes though and I have seen the occasional mistake from Foodstuffs. These kind of errors actually hurt them from a PR point of view. What doesn't hurt them is making shit loads of money selling you stuff at huge profit margins.


NeonKiwiz

It happens **\*all\*** the time..... You can literally see it using pricespy history for the products they track.


TeHokioi

Is that them raising the price though, or is that a side effect of the briscoes-style constant sales which make it seem like the actual price is cheaper than it is?


NeonKiwiz

Generally you can see from tracking that prices are always at their highest just prior to Black Friday and then they drop.. go up again a little... then drop again for boxing day.... then spend the rest of the year slowly going up (with the occasional smallish dip for specials) Obviously everywhere is slightly different... briscoes etc are their own category of special with how they do sales (to their credit they are consistent) Places like Mightyape and The Warehouse are pretty bad for slowly raising prices throu the year and then sending them down for Black Friday/Boxing Day. **tl;dr: Don't make any big purchases in October and make sure you use PriceSpy/Priceme+ChoiceCheapies! :D**


metametapraxis

If the price follows and up-and-down cycle, which all supermarkets follow and can be seen on pricerspy for pretty much all electronics and whitegoods, then how can the price not be being raised before a sale. All these people who say it is illegal are blind to exactly what is going on every single day. The "actual price" is simply what the retailer is charging on any given day.


27ismyluckynumber

Thats called a false sale. Shouldn't that be regulated?


Lazskini

Get out of here with your logic!


Aidernz

People won't like your comment. It goes against the hive mind that is /r/newzealand!


deaf_cheese

If it were a hive mind your comment wouldn't exist. Or maybe you're super special and that's why everyone's part of the hivemind but you


Aidernz

I waiting for you to hit my with "resistance if futile".


Merlord

When I was a teenager working at countdown, it was my job every Sunday to change out the items on the "sale" shelves at the end of the isle. Every other week, I'd take down the 1.5L Cocacola bottles that were on sale the previous week, and replace them with the 2.25L bottles that were on sale that week. Then the following Sunday, I'd take down the 2.25L Coke and replace it with the 1.5L. Week in and week out, moving these bottles around to create the illusion that you're getting a "deal". There's no deal, coke is *always on sale*. This is true for basically every "sale" you see at the super market, they just cycle through them.


repsilat

I moved to San Francisco, and at my supermarket this is just standard policy -- it's not a deal for two things, it's a deal for one thing but they put the price for two more prominently to make you think about stocking up before the price goes back to normal. It confused me for a little being conditioned by NZ's multi-buy deal thing, but when it happens every time you eventually have to stop being confused and just grab five blocks of chocolate. Less true for berries maybe.


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Like chicken nuggets?


27ismyluckynumber

It's false 'sale!' advertising as far as I am concerned.


Justdontevenworry

The cat food I buy from PaknSave had a random spike by $7 for a couple of weeks then back to normal. Countdown kept it at the lower price I normally got it for. Glad there’s an inquiry happening


Aidernz

There has to be a reason for that. They wouldn't be "price gouging" as you exceptionally sharp and witty customers would love to think. A lot of prices on some products are set by the manufacturer and nothing to do with the supermarket. There would be a very good reason as to why your cat food had some random spike by $7 (which really doesn't sound right to be honest but, working with customers in a supermarket for 20 years, never did I encounter a time when a customer exaggerated the price of anything to make a point. So I have no reason to not fully believe you).


Justdontevenworry

Was definitely $7 increased. Purina grain free has always been $16 at both countdown and PaknSave for 2 years at least and for like 2 weeks at only PaknSave it went up to $23 then back down to $17


Aidernz

Ah fair enough then. There's a particular 1kg cat food I get that used to be $25 a bag. Then, on special, it would go down to $15 a bag. But the thing is, the stores would 'rotate' that! So, one week Countdown will have that cat food for $15, the next week Pak n Save! It's weird.


binzoma

actually if you pay attention, that's exactly pak n saves model. they rotate everything through 'price cycles'. so at any given point in time, 25-30% of their stuff is priced SO LOW! 25-30% is priced o. 25-30% is priced a bit high, and the rest is artificially raised SUPER high so that when it enters the next cycle of being SO LOW! it looks like a fucking great deal. on average their prices are the same as countodnw. but the fake deal shenangians make people 1) buy more of a product they want and think they're getting a deal on 2) get people to buy stuff at more expensive prices than they realize as 'add ons' to what they actually came to buy. or more of the 'SO LOW!' items


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NeonKiwiz

Yep I do all the shopping for the family.. spend $300+ per week at the supermarket. * PakNSave is by **far** the cheapest * Then New World and Countdown. Countdown used to be a fair bit cheaper than New World..... but I swear their prices went up around the time of Covid....they seem to be on par at the moment. (With some things being cheaper at each vs each other)


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The main difference between NW and Countdown seems to be range - NW has wayyy more options. Their meat is on par pricewise but their butchers are better. I cycle between NW and PaknSave to save without missing out on stuff.


Justdontevenworry

So 2 years at $16 and then a random two weeks at $23 is a normal cycle?


RuneLFox

Explains why I got full whittakers blocks for $2.50 (I don't even think they were on sale?) a couple years back, now it's $4 *minimum* for the same amount


i_am_bloating

This story comes to mind: There was an old man who sold watermelons on the street - one for $3 or three for $10. A young lady comes up, sees the pricing, and proceeds to buy three watermelons separately. Upon receiving her watermelons, the lady tells the man "maybe you should rethink doing business because I just bought three watermelons for $9", before leaving. The old man smiles to himself. "While normally people would only buy one watermelon, I've made this lady buy three" Edit: LOL perhaps reverse psychology being used - they only want you to buy 1 for some reason.


Aidernz

That is funny :) I used to work at a supermarket and when GST went from 12.5% to 15%, the prices of bananas changed. When GST was at 12.5%, bananas were sold at **$2.89** a kg. When GST rose to 15%, bananas went to **$3.06**. When that happened, we took a sales hit by 25% on bananas. Because they "looked" more expensive. When we lowered the price down to **$2.99**, their sales went back to normal.


jayz0ned

Lol your supermarket raised prices by more than the increase in GST, so no wonder people were pissed. If they changed prices only by the increase in GST it would be $2.95, so the initial price was price gauging and it wasn't that they just "looked" more expensive, the GST exclusive price increased by about 4%... The psychological effect of passing a dollar amount would certainly effect sales but the increase in price was not justified by the GST increase.


Lumpy-Studio

That was one of the funny things we noticed moving here from the UK. There, a large packet of \[product\] is almost universally much cheaper than multiple smaller packets of \[product\] that make up the same quantity. Here, if you aren't careful, you end up subsidising the manufacturer saving costs on packaging, and it's unusual to make a decent saving buying in bulk.


Puffpiece

I was angry at food prices for about 5 years after moving back from the UK. Now it's just grim acceptance that courgettes sometimes cost $19/kg and cauliflowers can be $10


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Same here. I came home after a few years and my mum sent me to buy a bottle of milk. I thought i'd just go to a dairy but they wanted what i thought was a crazy price, so i went to another dairy, same price. So i thought "Ok fine ill go to the super market". Drive down to countdown and they also wanted a ridiculous price. I get home with no milk and my mum asks what happned, i simply replied "There no milk" but what i really meant was "Theres no milk at a fair price" I just wasnt going to pay what they were asking.


Bartholomew_Custard

"There's no milk." This is New Zealand. We're literally drowning in cows. Did she ask if you'd been drinking?


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She did but I said "No, I haven't been drinking, haven't you been listening? There's no MILK!!!" lol


Aidernz

> courgettes sometimes cost $19/kg and cauliflowers can be $10 That's called "seasonal produce". It's more expensive when it's not in season. That's because they have to recreate, or simulate the growing conditions (eg, a glass house). Or, they import it. Personally, I think it's a credit to our progress that we get to have non seasonal products all year around. But people are pretty small minded.


Breezel123

Just like in your other comments you completely forget that capitalism exists.


Aidernz

I don't understand the relevance of your comment. What does capitalism have to do with this other than ensure you get the opportunity to have seasonal fruits and vegetables all year round? Are you trying to use this to fuel your opinion that capitalism is bad or something?


Breezel123

Your trying to justify shitty pricing tactics with other reasons. And blaiming people for "not reading the fine print" and whatever else you wrote here in those other comments. Seasonal pricing exists, but it's probably not the reason why giant supermarket chains in a country with zero competition change prices on a whim. It used to be the same in Australia until aldi came along and introduced some reasonable pricing. Capitalism is the reason why those companies can do whatever they want (e.g. price fixing) and will care nothing about consumers struggling to buy food.


Aidernz

Your perspective is very warped. There absolutely is competition here! Where did you get the idea there wasn't? Foodstuffs and Progressive compete with each other. Eg, if one company lowers the price on something, the other company tries to match it. I know because I used to work as a price analyst and stock orderer for Progressive. We will get information that New World (for example) will have Broccoli on sale the next week at say, 99c. Because Progressive and Foodstuffs use different suppliers for broccoli, we'll then negotiate with our supply to try to match that price. Usually, the Foodstuffs supplier will make sure that he Progressive supplier can't match the price by ensure that different crop yields happen in alternate stages to Progressives (They have land sectioned into 4-6 lots and harvest each lot at particular times of the year so that broccoli can remain consistent throughout the year). Often, the supplier is aware of when their competitor harvests less than his, so will organise with the supermarket to lower the price to * get rid of their stock so it doesn't go to waste and the supermarket will buy it and * get more for it so they can make money on the extra yield. If the supplier has more stock than usual to sell, it will go to waste if they don't sell it. So they offer it to the supermarket for cheaper than usual as it's best to make some money off of it than to waste it and not make any. That is when a supermarket will put the product on special for that week. Sometimes, to match the competitor, we'll use the following weeks stock so that we have extra and can sell our broccoli at 99c. That is why sometimes after a sale, broccoli will go back up to $2.50 for the next 3 weeks or so (it's catching up on its stock levels) If the supermarket charges "whatever they want" for an item, there is nothing stopping the competition from lowering their price of the same product and getting everyone to shop for them. That is why the "4 essentials" are constantly on special in one way or another (try to guess the 4 essentials. That's 4 items everyone goes shopping for... >!Milk!< >!Bread!< >!Butter!< >!Eggs!< ) If enough popular items are on special, customers will go "oh, Pak n' Save have coke on special this week. Guess I'll do my shopping with them today" and bang, that customer just spend $150. All because Coke was $1.99 for a 2.25L. It is furious how competitive it is. I shit you not, they pay people to go into the competition store to check the price of stuff. They will pay a Progressive worker to shop at New World or Pak n Save to scope out the prices of stuff. They do it to Countdown stores all the time! The managers will often ask these people to leave the store if they are caught (eventually they are. Sometimes you can catch them using their cell phones to take photos of the prices of stuff. Try it! Whip your phone out and take pictures of the price of produce items. You will get approached by someone and asked not to take photos. Anyway, we can't use these people for more than a few months because the stores get wind on who they are. So they are rotated throughout the year and through different stores). Mate, it's super competitive. Like I said, I used to be a price analyst for them. I actually have been approached a couple of times this year by some managers/duty managers at Pak n Save and, without them saying a thing, I bring out my cell phone, show them I have not taken any pictures and say "mate, I don't do that job anymore. Just doing my shopping :)". One guy said to me "that's fine, just as long as you are. We have eyes on you". So friendly :P But I get a kick out of knowing they watch me haha.


OutlawofSherwood

> Sometimes you can catch them using their cell phones to take photos of the prices of stuff. Try it! Whip your phone out and take pictures of the price of produce items. You will get approached by someone and asked not to take photos. Ugh, so it's your fault that I can't make a visual shopping list of stuff the supermarket stocks that I can actually eat. Thanks.


qtcunt

this is so interesting, thank you for sharingn


r3dD1tC3Ns0r5HiP

A duopoly doesn't actually bring competitive prices for consumers. If you want an example of this you can look to Telecom and Vodafone mobile pricing for many years before 2degrees hit the scene. In fact what you describe in your story there is indicative of price fixing.


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mechanical-avocado

Perhaps the alternative is curvilinear metres?


AdgeNZ

I guess products could be scattered across multiple locations, and therefore non linear?


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Need Aldi and Lidl in here. Too many fat cats running Foodstuffs stores. More and more profit for the owners while the workers and the customers are screwed over.


HerbertMcSherbert

The supermarkets sure don't want free market competition. There used to be more supermarket brands in NZ before the Commerce Commission - whose job it is among other things to ensure competition exists - allowed them to be consolidated into a duopoly. Much like what they've since allowed in our insurance market.


blackflag1981

I live in Oz. NZ needs Aldi!


not_mr_Lebowski

Having lived in Europe, I agree.


mechanical-avocado

Saw the same special in another New World today where the single price was $2.00. Currently enjoying a single punnet of blueberries


Aquatic-Vocation

My local New World had mold on all the blueberries.


Ratez

Sounds like its working as intended if it made this many people stop and buy one.


Damolisher

That's Foodstuffs for ya. You'd be amazed at the number of times I found tickets listing prices as more expensive WITH a Clubcard than without.


hallucinogen_

Most likely explanation that the updated price tickets are placed in front of the old ones. New ticket get's pulled out and lost when a customer dislodges the special sign (which happens fairly regularly). Staff member sees the special sign on the floor and places it back, but doesn't know the price ticket is gone.


Damolisher

Not at all what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the price on the actual paper ticket being screwed up. It'll state the non Clubcard price is 5.99 for example and 6.99 for the Clubcard price.


Heikin_

I think this happens because stores can set their own prices for everyday trading, but they have to use mandated pricing with the nationwide "super saver" deals which could end up being a higher price


Damolisher

As I said, they were typos. Just incredibly stupid ones.


MissVvvvv

The supermarket inquiry can't come soon enough


Puffpiece

Agree!


IchleibeSchwein

NZ government: Doesn’t let overseas workers in to pick fruit causing some of it to go to waste. Also NZ government: Why are food prices so high?


Netroth

We tend to eat more than fruit :P


IchleibeSchwein

Yes but fresh fruit and vegetables are one of the most important foods we eat.


IchleibeSchwein

I love how I get downvoted for saying fresh fruit and vegetables are an important part of our diet. I think you guys should get your hands how the Cheeto bag at some point.


Discodannz

Fruit growers: Don't pay staff a decent wage causing no one to apply for the jobs advertised. Also fruit growers: Why can't we get people to help pick our fruit?


Caenir

I've been looking for a job for the past month spread over 3 sites (thinking of adding trademe to that, but don't really like how trademe handles things). I haven't seen a single advert for picking. Of course that could be a regional thing, but I'm sure there's a few places around me because I'm in a pretty large area


das_boof

Food prices have been high for longer than the pandemic.


Aidernz

If you think $1 for a loaf of bread is high, you're a spoon.


das_boof

Yeah, might as well let them eat cake, right?


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Aidernz

Food isn't expensive. People are just entitled. People just want the food that they like to be cheaper so they can buy it more often. You can not tell me that food is expensive when there are things like noodles, bread, soups, pizzas, curries and simmer sources, bananas etc for dirt freaking cheap. It is very cheap to eat and eat healthy. It is, however, expensive to eat healthy, *and* delicious. People are just entitled.


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Aidernz

Oh snap! Can't argue with that.


OutlawofSherwood

That's clearly because the bread farmers pay fair wages to the people.picking it off the vine and weren't affected by the shortages during lockdown.


tomlo1

There is plenty of idle Hands. Why import dumb labour when there is hundreds of thousands sitting idle?


IchleibeSchwein

Because kiwis don’t wanna do it. It is far easier to sit around on government benefits than working out in the hot sun.


RuneLFox

Whoops turns out they ignore NZer applications because they can't exploit them


IchleibeSchwein

Source?


RuneLFox

https://www.odt.co.nz/rural-life/horticulture/responses-growers-criticised


r3dD1tC3Ns0r5HiP

Bring back work for the dole.


KiwiSpyGirl

There is more at risk than rotting fruit right now.


IchleibeSchwein

Yeah cause Samoa with it’s one suspected case of COVID 19 which was from NZ. Fruit growers also said they would cover the cost of isolation for the workers.


WhiteNoise3000

So what happens at the checkout, does it add 2 cents ? I wondered if the system might disallow that scenario ? Is there ever a legitimate reason in the context of a supermarket to increase the price per unit if a customer buys more units ?


Aidernz

Assuming the ticket is correct, it would add 2c. The checkouts use a basic "if" statement when scanning two item specials. $item.price = x if $item ="x2" then ; price = y Same with Onecards at Countdown. There was an instance once when, on a Monday morning (called 'turnover' day. When we change all the specials from the previous week to the new week. Sometimes items get missed) I was at the checkouts and an item came down that was $2.99 (was $4.99) on special last week. It should have been changed back to regular price in the register but was missed. However, in the new week, that special was changed to a Onecard special but at $3.50 instead. So, I scanned item, it rung up as $2.99. Customer swiped their Onecard, item increased in price to $3.50. I laughed. The customer did not.


bobwinters

You seem like you could do much better than a checkout operator.


[deleted]

So weird. I got this same deal for $4 in Whangarei New World.


Lagerlady

This happens when the buyer gets a better private deal from the sales rep than from the wholesaler. Wholesaler pricing is automatically loaded in the system but special deals are not, hence the ticket errors. Again, not right at all but an easy mistake to make on the buyers end. They are probably overwhelmed as well due to Christmas/New years crowds; be nice to retail workers friends ✌️


[deleted]

But this is a marketing department issue (who printed these signs) not a retail worker issue... no one is having a go at the checkout operator.


Lagerlady

Actually all signage is done in store, and some deals are local to each store too.


steveschoenberg

NZ seems to have a problem with volume pricing in general. I have given up trying to help.


StaffroomFruit

You know some teenager got an absolute earful for this today.


Jagjamin

I worked at a New World over a decade ago and the owner would get so annoyed by this. At our place it was pizza. He got a good price on it, so they were $2.50 each usually, but corporate had their rrp at about $3.50, so they'd do a special (which all stores had to comply with) of 2 for $6. The only thing he could do was have the price tag show his usual price instead of corporate recommended price.


Kiwi_Born

New World Old Tricks


XL0RM

Ah, Hastings New World, only barely beat out in dodgy business by Havelock North New World.


Huntanz

Wharehouse boxing day sale,Small table BBQ $250, 30% off $175.00 ..but for months it been $ 175.00 on there Web site so it's the special you get when they're not having a special. It's just bullshit and the BBQ just crap made in China.


[deleted]

Tinfoil and lpg are not things I'd want to combine, even at that price.


slickgeddy

This is what is called a r/stupidtax


garmens

This is like the episode of Rick and Morty, one for 10 and two for 25 something like that hahahahaha


macesta11

Maths. Go figure.


frank_thunderpants

FaLsE sAlE. Except the single price is also on sale.


HMR_hd

All the time


foxvipus

So ya get 250g of Blueberries for $5. Meanwhile over in the Frozen section every week at basically any supermarket they have Frozen Blueberries 500g for $5. Considering I usually just chuck them in a George Foreman Smoothie maker, it makes no difference to me if they're fresh. Iced up even better.


metametapraxis

So two completely different products are different prices. Who would have thunk it?!!


foxvipus

Completely different - you've got to be kidding? If it were fresh apples and canned apple for pies there is definitely a noticeable difference. Blueberries I think not.


metametapraxis

Of course they are different. The entire lifecycle of the product has been different from the moment it was picked. The fresh fruit have probably been stored under nitrogen and the frozen ones were ... well... frozen. The frozen ones can also have all the blemishes that the fresh ones can't as once defrosted, they are only vaguely like fresh blueberries (I honestly don't know how you can think otherwise). They are different products for different purposes with entirely different production and logistics costs.


Aidernz

Next time, have a look at the packet and see where the blueberries come from :P


mlvsrz

I don’t think this is true, I think that they’re allowing single unit purchases of the product at 2.49 even though it’s on 2 for 5. The pricing is just there to inform you what’ll happen if you just buy one. Most supermarket chains don’t do this at all - pak n save do it though and it’s great for when you don’t actually want two. The usual rrp will be about $3, this is more about the mechanics of supermarket promos than people being ripped off


dignz

So why is one item less than half the price of two? You are correct they are "allowing" purchase of singe items at 2.49 but OP is correct that the advertised super saver isn't a saving at all in this case. Also they are 1.99 not on special elsewhere.


mlvsrz

Normally you cannot get the promotional price in a multi buy if you only buy one. The suppliers paying for the promotions won’t allow it. However pak n save gets away with it using their supplier “relationships”. What also might be happening is two promotions at once. The multibuy is the banner level promotion and the single buy is the store level promotion. They must run the multibuy even if the store got a promotion from the supplier. Supermarkets rarely run promotions that aren’t funded by suppliers, pricing and promotions is really complicated and stuff like this happens all the time - there’s no conspiracy afoot.


dignz

If i buy two packs what should I be charged?


mlvsrz

If you buy two the multibuy would be applied, that the mechanics of the software


dignz

Probably illegal though eh.... Or at least dodgy. Prominently present a worse deal as a super saver and charge you more than twice the single item price.


mlvsrz

It’s not at all, you could technically demand a 2c refund if you were pedantic. This really isn’t an issue


stevo_stevo

OP doesn't realise how the Swedish system ofrounding works since they don't make 1, 2 or 5 cent coins anymore


mycatechoismissing

it doesnt round off if you pay by eftpos and if you bought 10 blueberry punnets with cash, you'd save 10 cents.


Mortuus_Gallus

Enjoy *better*.


LonelyBeeH

Gdamnit. report them


Mortazo

Good thing Jacinda put all those green grocers out of business by not letting them operate during the lockdown. Who needs competition in the food industry? The duopoly is so upstanding.


hamsap17

Oh hey, congrats you have uncovered supermarket common scam on non existent ‘saving’


Aidernz

It's not really a scam if they are printing the prices. I'd rather say the person not choosing to read the fine print is stupid instead.


dontworryimabassist

This is so common in retail its laughable


IfIWereATardigrade

Someone send this to the feckin' Royal Commission stat.


kevthekereru

Glad there's an enquiry happening. I'm assuming this is pak n save but I've caught this at Countdown a few times, where 1 is cheaper than 2 for X - sometimes $1 or more.


-bluemonster

Your one of those weirdos that always comes in and take photos of stock for your internet friends 🙄


Jizaykaisabella

Oh yeah, New World has been pulling this shit forever. They're so expensive. I feel so sorry for all the oldies who have fallen for their "rewards" system.


[deleted]

New World isn’t that much more expensive than Countdown. And if NW is your local, you’d tend to spend more in petrol driving to Pak n Save


n3m4c

No, this is to give you a feel for how much cheaper it is per “unit”. I’ve never seen it done this way though, usually for fruits and nuts they put a price per kg if the package is 250g or something like that.