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PiggasInParis

I actually checked rule 9 and it says that the post must contain materials related to India or Indians Since this was about Afghanistan and in no way related to India, it was removed but I have no idea why those other two post were not removed Though you can post the achievements of Indian Muslims and their sacrifices and nothing will happen Also you have posted a whatsapp screenshot, post proper sourced title and it will be approved, try once again


ShampuCat

True. Looking at how those posts did well on the sub, I thought supporting other Indian communities abroad was no problem.


PiggasInParis

Yup buddy no problem just what you posted was looking as a Whatsapp edit text. Use proper title and source We should all see the bigger picture apart from hindu, muslim, sikh, isai We should see each others as Indian and respect and celebrate each other's achievements


THE-Sumukh

Recently there was a post in that sub about Muslim soldier in Indian army who was martyred in Kashmir and it got many upvotes. Ur post was not related to India. Also the only reason why Taliban defended the Gurudwara was because they are sworn enemy with ISIS.


SnooSeagulls9348

To be fair, the OP also included some posts that are not related to India but are still on. OP is just highlighting the unfair method in which the "Not related to India" rule is being enforced.


ShampuCat

It's less about my post getting removed and more about the other posts being allowed even when they're clearly not related to India


Unique_District_9381

Bro atleast bhai perma ban nhi hai r/india pr daal perma ban lagega


[deleted]

Maa k lodey hai r/india valey..madarchod saley


Kold_Blooded_Killer

I have gotten perma banned from both the subreddits, theyre just retarded echo chambers, anyone trying to argue otherwise is biased towards atleast one of them/the ideology they propagate


canttell92

Exactly. Where do the centrists go


Lazy_Uchiha

We have nowhere to go, I am banned from both subreddit, from Randia bcoz I took a hindu’s side and from RandiaSpeaks bcoz I was against BJP in one particular case. centrists or traditional centrists or a little left leaning centrists are a minority.


canttell92

Haha, same for me. Randia banned me for speaking out against one of their many self hating white worshipping posts. RandiaSpeaks because I didn’t conform to their “Modi is God” rhetoric a few years back


JustAnotherHuman5

I'll tell you why - because people not supporting 'One' side's radicals are considered supporters of 'Other' side's radicals, over-simplistically. If you're not on my side, then you're on their side. /s '**Us vs Them**' in action. Even if you tell them you're *anti-all-radicals*, then your nuance is lost and you're labelled as 'weak & coward' for not supporting their side. Because you're supposed to be seething / frothing with anger against the Others. Basically, lots of humans applying their own theory of 'Survival of the Most Aggressive' in a so-called civilized society :) No wonder people like you & me & the commenter above you are a minority.


SnooHobbies3376

you could join r/IndianModerate, it's a new sub


JustAnotherHuman5

Check out IndianModerate sub. I wouldn't label it centrist but more of a 'rational & reasoned sub' than most echo chambers on SM. Their description is interesting: >We are not politically “neutral” nor do we engage in “both-sideism”. We believe in solid engagement & debate based on facts and logic as well as taking a “leftist” or a “rightist” stand depending upon the situation. We respect “correct” opinion no matter where its coming from. > > > >We are against extremism & fundamentalism of any kind.


Kold_Blooded_Killer

I mean I consider myself very much 'on the left' but r/india isn't really left, it's just a hypocritical echo chamber, idk why is it so defensive and protective about Islam with power tripping mods, even when it doesn't need to, I don't understand where it comes from, you can be a leftist and still be critical of Islam AND you can still be a right winger and not be a racist POS like most people on r/Indiaspeaks are


ShampuCat

Good news: got perma banned from r/IndiaSpeaks


meawmeawn_gga

That sub is shit, I'm banned from there too for just a comment xd


ShampuCat

It used to criticize r/India, now it has become equally pathetic


Ok_Review_6504

Exactly bro....just yesterday i quitted indiaspeaks, it has become wayyy to communal in recent weeks, it's as shitter as rindia....


Master_Duggal_Sahab

It is more a about title and source to be fair with you, I had many posts removed because of that.


ShampuCat

Even with the title, the other posts I've shown clearly mention Pakistan in their title. So, I don't see what you mean by that. None of it can hide the fact that IndiaSpeaks is just a sub whose mods want to show a forced perspective of Hindus being better than everyone else, and being the center of attention. And *all* muslims being animals.


Master_Duggal_Sahab

Please dude, you posts as like images people share on whatsApp and nothing else. You should have made your post Betty and the accusations are totally false. Plus if you wanted to share about that then you could have shared in a better format, the pics you posted are videos and there are several posts on kabul gurudwara attack.


frost_inmachine

The way reddit is structured, every subreddit is bound to become an echo chamber. That's the entire point of a 'sub'


ShampuCat

I remember the days when reddit used to be a place without restrictions


frost_inmachine

When was that? I think I joined reddit way too late


ab316_1punchd

You have to go six years back...or even more.


Cruelplatypus67

What part of that post is related to India? Please read the post before posting, this is an obvious rule 9.


ShampuCat

Can you please let me know how the other three posts are related to India?


Cruelplatypus67

Just browsed the "hot" posts section only two posts caught my attention which were in the grey area. "learn some basics about Al Jazeera" which does affect us directly since they are the ones posting most shit about us all the time and the other one being "Religiophobia should not be a selective exercise involving only 1 or 2..." which is aptly tagged as 'geopolitics' Now I don't know if you replaced dick with your eyes but I do see posts directly or partially related to India. Even conspiracies are allowed so you can post random shit but IT HAS TO RELATE TO INDIA SOMEHOW.


ShampuCat

The other posts I've put screenshots of. What are your thoughts on those?


ameya2693

The second one has Shaheen Bagh which, last I looked, was in India. As for the posts about Hindus in Pakistan, unfortunately, it is the only subreddit which regularly allows atrocities against Hindus to be posted. You go to randhwa and you'll be insta banned for even suggesting that Hindus are basically a dying community in Pakistan. So, yeah, please stop complaining about a sub which is nowhere near as biased as your randhwa.


BlueFlame__

At leqst they didn't block you like the other one


eggpups

The biggest myth here is that IndiaSpeaks doesn't ban. IS doesn't ban RWs, that's all.


ru5tysn4k3

Not really, you can find many left wing views especially in comments some reasonable ones are even upvoted to top. It's not an echochamber unlike most of reddit subs where they outright ban you for supporting rw views.


canttell92

I’m blocked from both, LMAO


ShampuCat

What good is that when I don't even have the freedom of speech?


whocaresaboutU8

U have u can still post, message and whatever the sh!t there is even u urself got a MSG from mod in ur post when u commented that echo chamber message in that post(i checked from your history) if u have got any more problems u can DM mods (i was banned from IS but after having a talk with mod finally I got unbanned after 2 months it was worth the wait now I can have debate/chat there while following rules) u just can't OPENLY give a tag of echo chamber to IS and compare it with fcking liberandus or official India sub those subs are true definiton of echo chamber.(well i still accept that sub is kinda right wing more of anti-muslim (radical one) but can't do anything if other one gonna follow some same ideology then there has to be a sub with different IDEOLOGY to counter part and that sub is IS)


gametime2019

The rule that got you blocked is still valid. Your post isnt related to india or indians. I can't see how mod's actions are unjustified


ShampuCat

My point is to show how posts regarding Hindus go unscathed by any rules while posts about any other community have to abide them religiously. That sub has basically become HinduSpeaks rather than IndiaSpeaks


TheUntamedMane

This is unfortunately correct. Extreme always leads to an extreme reaction, and the way Randia has operated this was bound to happen.


coldoldmonk

I would blame r/India for it. It kept banning the centrist and right wing, and those folks had only one sub left to work with which is indiaspeaks


akashneo

Did he really died defending gurudwara? Taliban doesn't care about gurudwara. They are fighting against ISIS. Taliban is using gurudwara as a spot to fight back. What part of them did you think of as defending when the same people brutally murdered Sikhs and Hindus there.


NickFury1998

Indiaspeaks is right now somewhat similar to India....both subreddits have started following a particular ideology...and censoring is going to be common....ok on serious note we really need some centrist subreddit without any hates being relayed


ShampuCat

I know it will be offensive to many, but most of us Indians have a tendency to find conflict everywhere. Always making and choosing sides: India/Pakistan, Hindu/Muslim, Upper Caste/Lower Caste, Left/Right, etc. Naturally this was meant to happen. No matter what, we will keep on fighting between ourselves even long after the Britishers disappear from the face of the Earth.


NickFury1998

Westerners are successful in dividing us....we are just morons who are playing alongside westerners.... currently the situation is going off a spiral... Criticize right wingers...ur an Anti-national and if by any chance ur a Muslim person....your entire religion and existence will be insulted.....and if you criticize left wingers..ur sanghi ..U promote brahminism at one point I have some idiot left wingers who were arguing against a SC guy and telling him he's under brahmin privilege like wtf ...this is the current state of Indian politics.....idk when will change in ideologies will develop


Expensive_Slice_4835

There are multiple posts in there about this very incident, half truths and half news stories claiming Muslims killed Sikhs not about how ISIS attacked the Gurudwara and TALIBAN defended it. I'm in no case a fan of the TALIBAN but the motives of this sub seem quite clear to me.


ameya2693

What's the difference between ISIS and Muslims? One does the killing and the other doesn't care about it. As much as I feel bad for Afghans and what they are going through, especially their women, it's up to them to show that Islam is more than a medieval cult. It is not our responsibility to cover for their barbarism.


abhigang729

Apni asli ID se a libu


FartOnUrMouth69

r/india is leftist and r/indiaspeaks is right wing


ShampuCat

They're both pathetic, nonetheless


FartOnUrMouth69

Well yeah indiaspeaks is hindu obsessed and India is Muslim obsessed


Newbie-investor-ind

I always thought r/indiadiscussion and r/indiaspeaks are same. Seeing it for the first time one criticising the other. ( not saying it happened for the first time, I saw it for the first time).


ShampuCat

Honestly I'm surprised my post hasn't been removed like the dozens of time in the past


Newbie-investor-ind

Yeah. Equally surprised. It’s been 4 hours. Maybe mods are on break enjoying their Sunday! We’ll get to know soon.


berzerker_x

I have earlier also seen criticsm of indiaspeaks here although less. But I am not aware if the mods removes these post, I do not think that is true.


Longjumping_Lock_719

Both r/India and r/indiaspeaks sucks..definitely not worth following both ....


FabulousCaregiver983

it's a shame that most outsiders go to those subs when they wanna know something about India


Mogg-The-Twin

Only to r/India. I never came across foreigners in Infidaspeaks.


SnooHobbies3376

true that!


bipin4u7

Damn... see how the tables have turned now.


sexsex69420irl

Literally every sub reddit is an echo chamber.


pansare-enjoyer

indiaspeaks has become the right-wing version of randia. For my own sanity, I don't step into that sub anymore.


mathelic

What was rule 9?


Unique_District_9381

Post should be related to India syd yahi tah


Butterscotch-Funny

I think that the mods must be changed regularly , because the mods have their own sets of biases and they need to be regulated.


ShampuCat

I think the mods got mad for pointing out their hypocrisy. I got perma banned


Butterscotch-Funny

Man tell me about it, I got banned from r/india subreddit even though I didn’t break any of their rules, I’d expected better from this one. Well anyway I don’t think either of those subreddits represent the country and if they are going to use the name of our country, they better be more responsible.


ShantanuSingh42

Funny how the post mocking Sikhs has more upvotes than mine where I asked the trolls to shut their mouth than say send nihangs there.


angelowner

That sub gave me a headache. One of the best decision was to leave it for good.


whocaresaboutU8

Hey never thought that I would see someone on this sub(political) who is constantly regular on sub like r/ religion. I have seen ur many comments there about Hinduism Good job :-)


angelowner

I found this sub recently. It is a nice break from all the doom and gloom of r India and all the hindu muslim of India speaks. Thanks btw.


Some_Blackberry5508

This sub and r/IndiaSpeaks are both echo chambers. Here you can't speak anything against Islam and there you can't speak anything against Hinduism. It's that simple


BobbySingh96

Honestly i kind of agree, india speaks has fallen from Grace. Honestly, thats just sad because what they don't realize that Axe will fall on them not their contemporary. Coming back to your post. The post that you labelled as "mocking" sikh community actually could be argued mocking islamic community actually. Like its he who shot those people, they were not responsible. Honestly, today the Afghan taliban's response was surprising tbh. Afghanistan is more complex than many indians thought. They are wonderful people tbh, speaking from experience.


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BobbySingh96

That doesn't explain Mods shift of stance. They deleted it, not the migrated members.


rishabhsingh9628

That sub is filled with extremists who want Hindu community to become the exact same thing Islamic extremist community is today, 15-20 years down the line.


ShampuCat

Yeah, and r//India folks lean so far left its cringe.


rishabhsingh9628

r/India is a cringe entertainment goldmine at this point. The mods think they're constructing a narrative where in reality, they're mere crybabies at this point disguised as clowns who bark at anything positive related to Hindus, India and/or BJP. The TV show Community has a famous line - "Not being a racist is the new racism". In Indian context or maybe for the post-2012 world, it's iteration is "not being woke is the new woke"


i_am_a_baby_penguin

Absolutely this. They hate Islam but they really seem to wamt Hinduism to become rigid and unaccommodating like Islam.


HotPappuInYourArea

Finally, someone said it. these fucker want India to go down the same path that Pakistan took in the 50s.


dabbangg

Bhai vo log potential neutral/left bando ko randomly mute kar dete hai. Later talk about freedom of speech. Sab managed by IT cell.


ShampuCat

I deal with all sorts of clown irl. I don't know what I was expecting from "Indian" subs. One is full of extreme left winged cucks, the other full of extreme right winged dicks.


SnooHobbies3376

If anyone's interested in an alternate sub to these, you could check out r/IndianModerate.


Master_Duggal_Sahab

Fighting was between isis and taliban both are bad, One less than other.


Rockksharma

As a Aurtholiberal Right I must say, Hume safai apne ghar se shuru karni padegi. Dusro ko unki kichad dikhan se pehle khud saaf hona zaroori hai.


ShampuCat

Where does this mindset go when it comes to the other posts I've shown?


Rockksharma

Well at the end of the day it's not a fair world why do you expect fairness? All I am stating is fact secondly changing ourselves is much harder than showing others their flaws as they are very visible to us. But acceptance is a good start atleast.


otaku2297

Content nor related to India is already written there what else do you need


ShampuCat

I need a reason why the other posts are allowed (especially the last two regarding Hindus in Pakistan)


otaku2297

Mod discrestion