By - rachaelonreddit
I used to work for tips, so I try to always leave a good one. Another solution could be to eat out less or not at all.
I started cooking a lot more. There's so many easy recipes you can do yourself with little or no prep or cleanup. The most time you will take is finding recipes you want to try.
Here's my simple lunch, if it helps.
Tortilla, mozzarella, spinach (or any leafy green), ranch, chicken
When I'm lazy, I toss a chicken patty into the oven. You can substitute this for any way you want to cook a chicken. Cut that Bock Bock up, heat up tortilla. Toss it all together, boom chicken wrap.
This takes me maybe 20 mins to make including baking time, fills me up and costs maybe 25 bucks for everything for 10 meals. The time it takes to drive to and from a restaurant for the cost of the gas.
Best part about cooking yourself is you don't like something, you can substitute ingredients. I use spinach, the original recipe said lettuce, which I hate.
So I'm in a second career, but most of my adult life I worked in restaurants, and a huge percentage of that I worked for tips.
I don't think not tipping will have the impact that you believe it will have. I was in Virginia and I realize some of this is specific to Virginia, but there are similar situations in other places. As I understand the law, an employer has to make sure I tipped employee makes at least minimum wage, but that's defined over a pay period. But if you received a few enough tips for it to trigger, you don't make minimum wage plus the tips you earned. You just make minimum wage for that pay period. The employer only has to make up the difference between your tips and minimum wage. And they really don't mind doing that, because all of those tips that you did receive supplement what they pay you anyway.
As long as laws are structured this way, not tipping not only takes money away from the employee who you didn't tip but it actually might not pressure or cost the company that has to pay that person almost anything. It would have to be everyone not tipping all at once and it would only cost each company what a minimum wage employee costs.
Yeah, that's how I've thought about it! Thank you for the detailed explanation!
Is it on you to pay a worker? Or is it on their employer? If you enable the employer, why would they ever stop?
Yeah, yeah, down-vote all you want, but it's the harsh reality. Tipping exists because we allow it to by continuing the cycle.
I don't tip unless the server truly goes out of their way to make my experience better. Just keeping my soda full isn't enough. I don't tip people for doing their jobs. I am not tipped and cannot be.
IMO the employer should pay a living wage. If that means menu prices will go up, so be it.
This is a complicated topic. Many European countries ditched tipping ages ago and instead pay a wage like 20+ an hour, which is still fairly low but .. Serving is seen as more of a "real" job/career depending on what type of place you work at. Fine dining a prime example of earning a real salary to live off of and being professional and actually good at your job; especially the social interaction part of it, whatever that entails.
In the US, tipping is a cultural and social contract instituted, I don't know when. Many restaurants are obviously small businesses. Yes margins are slim usually because of how pricing works in the industry and the tipping culture aspect plays into that. That said, I personally prefer making tips and it has helped me as someone willing to do the job well; I know all the ins and outs of the business. Lots of people half ass and still make 20%, and I almost always tip that as well. What I'm not supposed to tell you: I make more money then alot of people working shitty customer service jobs. Potentially make way way more then that even. So knowing that, tip less if you will. It's based on your income too and I'm not going to hate you for it.
Now, thaaaat said, lots of severs don't make tons, just a bit more then a fast food job or retail, as they should if they're doing the job well. I could go on and on into this. I like making tips, it blows my mind when fellow restaurant staff bitch about it. Like yo, ur pulling 30/hr+, shut up, if this restaurant sucks, move to a better one where they care about the employees / you make more money. Also, in spirit of the sub, fuck businesses that treat their employees like shit or run shit shows. I just don't expect to make more then minimum server wage, 2.13 or 5.13 or 8$ whatever it may be. It's how it is, and I prefer it that way
So all in all, until the social contract is either written lawfully out of existence or changes naturally on its own over time, you really really should tip. How much you want to tip is up to you. If you tip less, someone else will make up for it when I woooo them. You, or anyone else not tipping, will not change how it works. It will only hurt the employees, who are just humans who chose a certain industry to work in that works a certain way.
Absolutely not. Why should those trying to make a living suffer.
Having a system based on tipping is bad. NOT tipping is worse. That server makes fuck-all in wages. Tip.
Why should I pay someone else's employees when I'm already paying for the goods and service?
But the servers are employed by the restaurant, they're not freelancing for me.
A wage is subsidized by the government not by the customer.
Nobody is legally or morally required to tip, shit you won't even be banned from a place because you're not a tipper.
Quite often it's not subsidized. Employers lie cause like you they don't care about the servers quite often. They also steal tips sometimes, so servers are always getting it raw and unlubed. You think you're the only one that justifies fucking them over?
The real problem is of course not you specifically, but that mindset. Servers should be given a fair wage to begin with. Everyone would just rather it be someone else's problem.
You do it for the sake of the worker, not the boss. Bosses won't make up the difference if people stop tipping they'll just let their employees suffer. When those get sick of working for crumbs they'll just hire more desperately poor people.
and i thought you care about other people and cultures. im disappointed buddy.
you as ''big business owner'' not wanting to tip seems pretty greedy.
Take your meds.
i will, if you start tipping.
I tip my dentist and barber, does that count?
i didnt know you have that in your country, i thought when you have dental pain some voodoo priest would just wave a fishbone in front of your face.
>i didnt know you have that in your country, i thought when you have dental pain some voodoo priest would just wave a fishbone in front of your face.
And tomorrow you'll claim in my PMs you're not a racist. lol
bruh, if you can take a dick you can take a joke ;)
>bruh, if you can take a dick you can take a joke ;)
Oh so you're a homophobe as well?
At least you're staying true to your heritage.
So they don't fucking starve? Solidarity.
Well excuse me for not printing money so I can support dozens of businesses that can't turn a profit or pay their employees.
It's fucking four dollars. The system sucks. Linda is just pouring coffee, trying to feed her kid.
Well maybe Linda should've acquired a marketable skill instead of wasting her youth getting drunk and riding the cock carousel.
Oh, I'm sorry. I misunderstood. I thought I was speaking with a human. Fuck off now.
I'm not a human because I'm unwilling to pay for someone else's mistakes and poor life choices?
Sorry. I'll speak louder. FUCK OFF
dont get involved with this guy called Gravega.
take a short look at his profile and you will see that you are talking to a manchild whos only interests are anime, toys and trolling people with his ''edgy'' political opinions - oh btw he also pretends to be the CEO of some company and of course he pretends to be rich.
meanwhile he posts stuff like this (look at the title, the picture is just a bonus)
also he seems to be into pirating games - weird for someone who defends capitalism - also highly punishable as far as i know - not a smart move for someone who has a verified email adress connected to his account.
Your helpless screeching isn't helping your argument.
Wow. Your just a delight.. You are the type of customer id refuse service to. You can't afford $4 to tip someone? Wow. You shouldn't be going into a restaurant, a bar, or coffee shop unless you plan on tipping for the services rendered.
Nah you wouldn't do shit.
I am not legally or morally required to tip anyone for any reason since I am not their employer, if a business cannot afford it's workers they should just hire less people or close down.
Then don't go out to eat!!
Your the type of person I would refuse service to. You should be ashamed of yourself. You can't afford to pay $4 tip. You are a deplorable human being. Hurting good hard working people because you're too cheap to tip. It's how the service industry works.
You expect a server to make a hourly wage serving 1 person table vs serving a 20 top table? It's not the same thing.
Fine let's play your game. For a table of 1-4 people you are charged a 15% service charge. 5-10 people 22%, 11-20 people 35% 21 people or more 45%. By the way instead of paying after you eat it is restaurant policy to have your card authorized before you order in case you plan on dipping out to avoid the service charge.
>Nah you wouldn't do shit.
Really??? How about I kick you out and don't serve you a thing... Oh and I will ban you from the restaurant.
hey, what are you talking about here buddy? even if u would want to tip you couldnt afford it since you consider yourself a ''yuropoor''
edit: there is nothing wrong with being poor and living in a 3rd world country, but please show some empathy to other poor people, since you obviously know how it feels.
I'll start being more empathetic when you do, after all you consider working people "slaves" and pride yourself on not contributing to the system by leeching off them trough welfare.
just go to place you don't have to tip
Best advice here. I don’t know about elsewhere, but there’s a growing number of businesses in my city that have done away with tipping. Find those businesses and support them. Don’t screw over your fellow worker!
Boycott the food service industry.
Stop giving money to businesses that underpay they're employees. There's no reason for people to support the food service industry in the US.
I do 15% almost uniformly. It’s just what it is.
If anyone deserves the tips in the restaurants it should be the chef’s. Would you tip the cashier/server at any fast food place for taking you order. Filling up your drinks and getting you your food. Even the receipts at restaurants recommends a tipping percentage.
Yet they deal more with annoying and demanding customers... Filling your drinks over and over. Hearing complaints over and over. Waiting on a 15 top with their special instructions for every single item. Then hearing complaints that the food is taking too long... Yeah they don't deserve tips....
I really think the best way to stop the tipping culture is to boycott such restaurants and establishments. Let the customers who endorse this culture be responsible for the staff’s livelihood.
From an Australian perspective. We rarely tip, it is not in our culture.
Wages here a very different for wait staff and bar staff though. People are more protected.
You will have to pay more for food and drink if you drop the tips. I have been to the US a few times and eating out is cheaper, eating out in Australia is way more expensive.
I have no issue paying the extra knowing that people make more.
When you go to Panera and it ask if you wanna add a tip. I assume this is for special situations. Let me know if im wrong..
Until things change: I believe we should not only tip well, but we should work at finding ways to do it that circumvent cheap shit management games. I gather that varies place to place but I make sure I’ve got cash for any deliveries due to having lurked the subs for things like DoorDash and Instacart. I don’t actually use DoorDash or Grubhub anymore but I’m disabled and I often rely on the grocery delivery: but even pre-covid, to me, they gave me back some freedom so I have always looked for ways to reward accordingly.
I also make sure I do the surveys and 5 stars or whatever always because I worked entry level tech support and got to have regular panic attacks: not because I got a bunch of bad ratings but because I nearly lost my job a bunch of times because if you get one or two bad ratings but you didn’t get many ratings in general: you got in trouble and it didn’t matter if you only got 10 surveys as opposed to 20 in a month, the average would *still* be stacked against you and we weren’t allowed to ask them to do the survey, so you really didn’t have a way to get customers you did well with to say so. (I’ve seen the delivery people can ask: but many of these don’t allow it.)