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PRIMAWESOME

A being that looks human doesn't have to be human or a future human though. And if the government really knows more than they let on, they'd know that.


WeirdStorms

Yeah it could be the highly unlikely scenario where some other beings with arboreal ape ancestors coming from a planet with almost exactly the same history and make-up as Earth have become super advanced to the point of finding their twin planet and being capable of visiting it. Or maybe some extraterrestrial has taken our DNA and grown robots for use on our planet.


PRIMAWESOME

I wasn't thinking any of those, but sure.


gerkletoss

People would still go to work the next day


Fun_Simple_818

I wouldn't


gerkletoss

Why not?


Waldsman

I bet if aliens landed somewhere for whole world to see, that week lots and lots will quit, not show up to work.


gerkletoss

Why? Would they expect to not need money any longer? Would you quit?


Waldsman

The excitement, fear and ten thousand other reasons. Some people would think a new age was coming, some would try to leave Earth with them. This reddit imo gravely downplays the chaos that will happen world wide. Just look at Covid. I used to think we were ready till 2020....


gerkletoss

>Just look at Covid. People kept doing their jobs.


Waldsman

Where? The whole world shut down for months. Russia is shut down as we speak.


gerkletoss

Everywhere that people could work remotely and tons of places where they couldn't. Alien visitation os not an infectious disease. Russia is not shut down.


Waldsman

Russia has a week of no work, and certain regions already extended. The majority of working people in world can't work remotely. No alien visitation depending on what kind it is could be far crazier. People going crazy all over world for having to wear a piece of cloth over the face. No doubt it will be nuts.


gerkletoss

Tons of Russians are working through this 'week of no work'. The majority of people who didn't have remote work options kept working on-site. If the reveal is "the aliens have been visiting us the whole time" then literally nothing has changed as far was work place safety goes. >People going crazy all over world for having to wear a piece of cloth over the face. And they're insufferable, but life has moved forward regardless.


Sunbird86

I think you make valid observations which tie in to what keeps becoming more apparent about the true nature of UFOs. It has been argued for quite a while - by serious researchers such as Jacques Vallee, his mentor J Allen Hynek, and others - that there is quite a lot more to UFOs than one might think initially. The point I'd like to drive across, and which I am particularly in agreement with OP about is that had UFOs "merely" been visitors from outer space, world governments would likely have come clean by now, because people are mature enough in most parts of the world to accept such a reality to some degree or another. But what has become quite obvious is that the "truth" isn't as simple. Why, for instance, is the grey alien a "humanoid"? Is it because they are bio-robots, as has been widely speculated? Is it because they have a direct relation to the Earth, and are an instrinsic part of our planet and perhaps of human development itself? A creature from a distant planet would not likely look like a human. And this is why there has never been clear disclosure (there has been disclosure, but it hasn't been overt). It can't be overt because what governments know about UFOs - and I'm sure they don't know everything - would likely change the nature of reality for us. It would be almost impossible for some people to adjust were we to know what they really are, and what implications this has for our view of life and reality. We are living within a space and time which isn't what it appears to be and which isn't all there is. UFOs, multiple dimensions, consciousness, the continuation of consciousness post-death, hauntings, and so on... these are part of the same fabric of "reality" which we are only now beginning to slightly understand. Either that, or it's all woo woo. I don't know.


UFOnomena101

It could be a reasonable explanation for the secrecy. However it could also be something more basic with equally horrifying implications, and is even more likely -- Regardless if they're human-like or classic Greys, what if they have the same molecular DNA building blocks as us?. It would virtually guarantee that we have a common origin and would blow our entire historical and religious world view apart immediately. They don't have to look like us to threaten our very identity. Governments around the world would probably see this.


OkUnderstanding3193

Battlestar Galactica…the drones are the cylons, we are the first humans-cylons-native earthlings hybrids…only a free thought


royaxel

No it wouldn't. DNA could've emerged in many parts of the universe.


UFOnomena101

Its highly doubtful that the exact structure of their code would take the same form as ours. There are a huge number of ways that hereditary genetic information could be encoded in molecules. The exact form that ours took was incidental.


Bringbackdexter

Just look at how people reacted when they were told we had similar dna to chimps.


royaxel

Oh, please carry on with the microbiology lecture!


OkImIntrigued

They could be time traveler's


Curious-Meat

Yeah, exactly... wouldn't that be super fucking weird for people? Like - if that was the case, if they had some super HD photos/videos of UFO occupants and somehow managed to deduce that these were our future descendants, I could honestly understand how the secret hasn't come out yet. Who the fuck would want to be responsible for that? Can you imagine? Absolute fucking bedlam. I honestly think the entire fabric of human society would go to tatters - just imagine, everyone would suddenly question everything; our evolution, why we're here, why we have the systems we have, why we have the religions we have, why haven't we been helped, or have we been helped, what does this mean about our future, what do they know about life after death... I think it would absolutely sunder society. I can't imagine anyone ever wanting to be responsible for revealing such a truth - and I can't imagine anyone believing it if they heard it.


OkImIntrigued

Like I feel like we already do all of that


Curious-Meat

I think we do it, but superficially - it's still "drink your beer, work your 9-5, pay your taxes, watch cable TV"; we are never forced to actually confront anything. Even the UFO News we have had - Nimitz etc - should be *interesting*, but the revelations therein are so staggering that most people won't even play that game until the evidence is irrefutable. Having irrefutable evidence of aliens would likely be a very dramatic revelation - I think society would be quite shocked by that, right? Maybe people wouldn't lose their minds, but the world would have one collective "holy fuck, there it is." But now imagine we have almost irrefutable - if not absolutely irrefutable - evidence that there are non-Earthen UFOs, including documentation of occupants, and those occupants are either exactly like humans or almost exactly alike? I think it would hit people much harder. Are they our relatives? Ancient earth civilization? Angels? Aliens trying out an experiment? Time travelers? Parallel universe? I think it asks so many more immediate questions than even finding out "oh they're called Plorthipians and they're from Bimboculus Trendanté IV beyond Andromeda", you know? If they're just aliens, we can go "oh okay cool, life elsewhere in the universe". If they're very similar to humans....


OkImIntrigued

You and I must be from two different cultures. I literally don't know anyone who doesn't think that A:Aliens exist. B: Aliens have interacted with us on some level. There are a few that think Aliens exist but we are further along than them.


Curious-Meat

I don't know if you're intentionally reading past me or something, or trying to make me argue a point I don't hold? I never said no one thinks aliens exist and no one thinks aliens have interacted with us? My point is this: I think people would be more upset by the news that aliens looked like humans without being humans, compared to another lifeform that is completely distinct from us. You don't agree? Cool, sounds good, you've probably got it all figured out


New-Lake-6689

I don't see how future humans would be difficult to comprehend or cause mass panic. If anything, it's the safest option for mankind so would be met well. Saying that, I personally believe there to be a very unincredible origin of these crafts.


Curious-Meat

I don't know that I agree though. Personally, I would be far more saddled with deep existential questions if I found out UFO occupants were non-Earthen highly similar humanoid beings. How are they related to us? Ancestors? Future descendants? Time travelers? Parallel universe? Predecessors who are trying out an experiment? Some global conscious manifestation? If it was: "life evolved on another planet and became self aware 5,000,000 years ago", I would go "oh, wow, that's exciting, makes sense". If they showed photos of highly human-like figures... I just think it objectively asks more questions, and the kinds of questions people are likely to find more upsetting.


Loujitsumma

The “future” humans from earth maybe come from a more advanced past civilisation that saw an unpreventable disaster approaching so they set out to find a new planet for us all to live on, while they left a lesser disaster hit or something so no one remembers. Or they got bored of earth and wanted to find a “better” planet and now they’re back ready to finally share it lol Both sound like good bait lol if aliens are evil


AVBforPrez

I'm starting to think that this theory is more and more plausible - not so much in the way a show like Ancient Aliens outlines it, but maybe the advanced past civilization came here from elsewhere and then left at some point. It could explain all of the crazy monolithic art and stone-cutting and the lack of technology to do it. So humanity here is actually just a small stranded population of some other species that had civilization here in the past.


Loujitsumma

It should be looked at in multiple ways, it’s a new theory and should be expanded not squished instantly. I like to think we evolved something happened and now we’re returning to where we were. This theory is fun because the advanced people could of either used space travel found a better home and now have come back because they have means of mass transportation vs the idea of the ascended masters at the time having to come back through reincarnation and are just making it here now and thus our future alien people are just reincarnated past people being born in this time. All I believe in that though is don’t get on the ships :P


Sunbird86

I doubt they're time travellers. Their behaviour doesn't fit in with this theory. And there isn't a one-size-fits-all explanation for them either. It's multi-layered in the extreme.


Curious-Meat

No behaviour of any UFO since the dawn of the subject has ever been suggestive of time travelers? How did you become so confident in that conclusion?


DapperDowner

Sure. Or the Govts are totally clueless and just don't want you to know they are clueless.


Curious-Meat

Very astute observation, groundbreaking


DapperDowner

See ya!


Curious-Meat

Look forward to your opinion piece in National Geographic next month!


momoburger-chan

Yeah, and your post isn't very groundbreaking either, nor astute


Waldsman

But they did just that. They litterly came out and said we have no clue what these things are.


feelin_cute

The government is just a summation of humans. When many humans know a secret, humans to a bad job of containing the secret.


PrincessJellyfish39

that’s the thing. there are not “many” who know the secret and those that due are expert professionals at keeping secrets it’s literally their job and they face prison time and huge fines for sharing secrets at this level. So this comment just doesn’t apply in this context.


feelin_cute

That’s one hypothesis, absolutely. But we’re not talking about national security secrets here. We’re talking about topics that go to our existential core. I think there would be seepage.


claybus25

Thats why IMO none of these folks really have the goods. If you had a secret that big and that would change the existential nature of the universe and how you see it.Screw the laws and the prison time or whatever else they throw at you. im speaking out. Tell Snowden to get me a room ready.


not_SCROTUS

Supposedly the UFO that crashed in Italy in 1933 contained occupants that were so humanlike Mussolini and the Italian intelligence service just assumed they were Germans piloting some secret German aerospace project and handed the whole deal over to Hitler.


WeirdStorms

Funny thought, what if they had a picture of black people in a UFO in the 40s and our government covered it up because that would make some white peoples' heads explode?


toooldforthisshit247

I remember reading an old MUFON log (before they were completely taken over) about a hiker who witnessed a UFO with a very old man inside. The old man looked at the hiker in utter disgust/contempt then floated away The painting is also memory holed (Google images is showing the fake one; real one can be found in a Rogan episode somewhere) where one of Epstein’s victims depicted him riding in a UFO. Maxwell also looked to be some sort of lizard person… Anyways it’s all probably bunk and made up but somewhat interesting to think about with how the world is these days


kingfinvara

In my opinion its more likely that they are a very ancient civilization that continued on without losing its technology. Hitler, Himmler and their Ahnenerbe were convinced that an ancient civilization referenced in history such as the Vedas existed even in their time and Ahnenerbe was tasked to make contact with this civilization. This is why they were obsessed with the Aryans because the Aryans were actually a real people and conquered India and created the Hindu system and religion we see today. ​ edit: typo


[deleted]

Your rationale is all over the place with this. lol your making giant leaps about things you could know nothing about.


Curious-Meat

Wow, that's some keen detective-like skills you've got! I never claimed to know anything, the point of this was to be a discussion about the theory. Maybe you should crack open a Webster's and look up the word "theory".


teddade

It's tempting to entertain the thought but I don't think so. Another species may look nothing like us or quite a bit like us. It'd be crazy if we looked similarly, but it isn't that strange at the end. Would we be surprised if their wheels worked like ours? If their coffee cups were engineered like ours? If their rooms had four walls? These things all serve a function and our physical evolution has developed in a way to do the same... So that our bodies and minds serve a function. If that ends up looking similar because of similar environments, it makes perfect sense. Let's not forget they're said to be of child-like stature, have large eyes, and even the bodily construction of an insect. So, humanoid, but very distinct.


pab_guy

\> returning or contacting us to try to prevent some pending catastrophe (which seems a little late now anyways). I mean, if you have some respect for how bad things can possibly get, it's nowhere too late now.


UniverseInBlue

What if they all looked like Adolf Hitler in maid outfits? What is the point in this baseless supposition?


Curious-Meat

Maybe you missed the part in the post where it said "this is meant to be a discussion about the theory", detective, before chiming in with your intellectual nugget


UniverseInBlue

I just don't see the point in making stuff up.


Curious-Meat

If you are so intellectually stunted that you can't even consider a theory, I feel bad for your country's schooling system. There's nothing wrong with considering a theory for the sake of considering a theory. If that concept scares you, you don't have to participate.


UniverseInBlue

It's not a theory, It has no basis in observable reality - it's just something that's been concocted out of whole cloth. It's pure fantasy.


Curious-Meat

Unfortunately for you, conviction is only proof of conviction. The reality is that you have absolutely no idea what is or isn't possible, exactly like I have no idea what is or isn't possible. You don't have a monopoly on the truth just because you feel very strongly that you're right. You have absolutely no idea, and neither do I, so give it a rest - you're exhausting.


Kitchen_Equipment_21

They're trying to save the human race from Niburu


isharian

Very likely the will not be the same. Just look at us, white, black, brown, tall, small, wide nose, wide eyes, blonde, ginger, black hair.. If we are so different on the same planet, I can not imagine what does it mean "like us" on their side.


SophomoricHumorist

You probably don’t remember but there was a high resolution photo of an alien that was VERY efficiently scrubbed from every single corner of the internet a few years ago. As soon as someone would post even a fragment of the photo it would be deleted by an external source. Everyone freaked out about it. At this point I think we can be reasonably confident based on things like this incident that they’re 3 feet tall and gray.