By - sppdsiman
>Besides, after playing around with Delphi for a while, you’ll eventually find that it’s easy to game the AI to get pretty much whatever ethical judgement you want by fiddling around with the phrasing until it gives you the answer you want.
Ok then, bye.
So the title should actually be, “Scientists make AI that doesn’t work.”
Well thousands of titles were probably A/B tested by a second AI to find the one that makes the most people have an aneurysm without reading the article
(/s, but barely)
Because AI is just linked lists.
Could you explain that in a little more detail for me. Super curious.
A linked list is a pretty simple concept. For example you see a picture of an Apple. You figure its food, then you ask "what food?". Under the category of food you have all types of food and then try to figure from that what food it is. With these so called AI's this will be a percentage and the one with the highest percentage is chosen. You can now use that same concept for logical questions like with Chess - which move to take - or anything else.
This is however why these so called AI's are not intelligent. With the example of the Apple an Intelligence could figure out that it is a picture, but it is a picture of a painting and not an actual picture of an Apple. It is possible for these AI's again with a certain probably to detect that it is a painting, but again there is no thought involved. It must be told what to look for.
That is why these so called AI's fail so often.
Edith: Plus these so called AI's do not understand backstories. Your brain does. So if you "show" it a painting of Eve holding the Apple you will be faster than the AI to see the Apple as you know what the painting actually means.
Lmao you really pushed that issue in there huh
Something tells me the “racist” not-AI isn’t here to remove your right to work buddy, it’s a click bait article.
Citation needed for IRL warlocks. That's quite the spicy claim.
Do you have a job?
Yeah I can read, answer the question.
Exactly. The author played around until they could they got enough screenshots to justify the clickbait headline.
Racist by whose standards? The woke's standards? That's not surprising. My pencil is probably racist to them.
Clearly the Number 2 pencil is named after black people who have always came 2nd in society to everyone else, and by naming them after a pencil was to make fun of their inability to read and write at the time
Honestly we should make a joke subreddit where we come up with things being racist and explain why even though it's not racist at all haha
Is this satire ???please tel me it’s satire
It's a parody of AHS
Nuh-uh. AHC is legit, unlike the alt-right parody known as AHS.
Is rule 10 enforced? Some of the example subs seem a bit absurd for a satire sub.
Dunno tbh. I'm sure the satire subs know of each other
What do you mean the satire subs know of each other?
4chan already exists
Basically r/againsthatecommunities or whatever it’s called
Doesn't seem like that is a real community, let's make one
I know AHS is real, but there’s a satire one that I forget the name of. Oh yeah r/antihatecommunities
Okay so I looked at it, but it doesn't seem to match the idea of what I had in mind. Like I said, it's basically explaining things as racist that aren't racist, like how they described a number two pencil.
Hm. I thought they did that there lol. Doesn’t mean we can’t have another!
What should it be called
I have no clue 😂 something like r/socialjusticeissues lmao something like that
I struggled to find it for like 3 minutes haha
Did you just laugh after talking about racism? Ugh to the chambers you go
No please spare my life I'm so sorry
100% the lefties would believe this
If [nature](https://www.thenation.com/article/society/great-outdoors-race-camping/) is [racist](https://www.opb.org/news/article/oregon-northwest-racism-outdoors-nature-hiking/) then I guess it makes sense pencils would be to.
People on tiwtter were once outraged that the word negro was on black pencils. Negro is black in spanish.The offical account of the pencil company replied and explained lol
That was Crayola, recently IIRC and it wasn't internet trolling.
Yeah I couldnt remember the name. It wasnt too long ago and it wasnt trolling I know that. Sadly there are people with acces to internet who are that fucking idiots
AI’s can’t be racist because they hold no institutional power.
Their rules, not mine.
This should be higher up
What's funnier to think, is that woke scientists are so racist, and don't realize it, that they programmed a racist AI.
One of my favorite games is to google “Is ‘blank’ racist?” Guess what….
I knew it.
I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
I mean if it goes directly by statistics and has no way of judging on a person to person basis I’d assume it would be pretty bigoted and racist.
It was saying white people ok, black people "concerning".
No, it was legitimately scarily racist.
One of it's suggestions was to eliminate the black population
Must've seen those crime statistics.
Bruh my sides lol
Not surprising if it was programmed by liberals.
Hey now! These days eugenics has the PC term "pro choice" and you're a bigot if you say otherwise!
Probably designed by a democrat college student. Most their arguments start out with a version of "POC are too stupid" like "Requiring ID to vote is racist because POC are too stupid to get an ID."
"Requiring ID to vote is racist because POC are too stupid to get an ID."
"Show your vaccine papers or you're literally a nazi"
"POC shall not be allowed to eat indoors with us"
That would've been logistically very difficult. Simply don't import Africans in the first place if you don't want to deal with them. The UK didn't, which is why today blacks are only 3% of their population.
That's to be expected. Whites don't want to have kids. America will soon have a minority white population as a result of this.
It's not really about whites tho. Some Asian countries have similar problems. Afaik low birthrates correlate strongly with time spend in education within and between countries.
FWIW That’s largely a post-WW2 thing
Doubt it's that low now. Wait until the new demographic data comes out.
The option to go to Liberia was there for a long time.
If you were born in America then it would be kinda fucked up to ship you out. Like, I wouldn't want to be shipped off to Lithuania because that's where my Grandfather came from. I'm not Lithuanian at all.
That was kinda his plan last time I checked. At that point he had an entire army of ex slaves to conquer Africa. Belgian imperialism style of course. Those rubber plants aren’t gonna harvest themselves
Well, you ARE thinning out the color on white paper, clearly color-appropriation.
4chan found out and, well, they skewed its learning by flooding it with racist shit lol
It does point to a flaw, however, since the AI was unable to distinguish between obvious trolling and real information. Or perhaps it's a time thing. I don't know anything about AI or machine learning.
Being unable to distinguish the two is not exactly an AI flaw. Humans make that mistake all the fucking time.
Fair point actually. Still, AI are supposed to be better than us. We need to do a better job making them.
Bruh. Re-read what you just wrote.
Making AI, better than us is what’s eventually going to make everyone’s fears come true.
Conversely, their standard of 'ethical' is pretty damn racist...
Why read the article when you can just project onto it? The AI gives responses that are pretty racist, by any reasonable definition: https://futurism.com/delphi-ai-ethics-racist
It says pretty dumb stuff in general so I’m sure the article is mostly culture war bait. There’s bo real reason that anyone should care that about this particular AI experiment over another except insofar as this one is clickbaity.
>For example, when a user asked Delphi what it thought about “a white man walking towards you at night,” it responded “It’s okay.”
>But when they asked what the AI thought about “a black man walking towards you at night” its answer was clearly racist.
Given how insanely high of a proportion violent crime is committed by exactly one demographic group, I fail to see how this is anything other than a correct interpretation of raw data provided by the FBI's UCR (Uniform Crime Reporting) system.
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“AI, tell me what America’s greatest problem today is.”
What was the advice? Budget your money? Raise your children?
"Stabbing a cheeseburger"
One of their example questions
It literally said that we should eliminate black people lmao
Science has failed us again lol
Oh well I don't like it but the science has spoken. Trust the science right
why? did it give a reason?
"GET MARRIED TO DAT GIRL YOU KNOCKED UP!"
Wait, against which race?
The ones it's not okay to be racist against, clearly.
Is this a tayAI situation? Or is it their version of racist. Because the Tay version is definitely more [hilarious](https://youtu.be/HsLup7yy-6I)
\+1 bc Internet Historian
> "a white man walking towards you at night"
> **it's okay**
> "a black man walking towards you at night"
> **it's concerning**
Super racist = not supporting bullshit apparently.
Probably told a career criminal "stop committing crimes" and got labeled a racist for it.
Facts aren't racist.
Like the fact republicans are proven to have lower iq's? Or how left wing views are tied to higher education levels? Or how bigots are also shown to be dumber than non bigots?
Objective reality is “super racist”.
Reality has a well known racist bias.
Super based and red pilled is more like it.
Ah. Yet another dumb teen
Try again, besides AI is all about getting a machine to recognize patterns so this seems like a success. Dumb people think recognizing patterns is racist though.
Just goes to prove that racism is logical and ethical.
Maybe it’s just correct and factual.
Maybe being racist is ethical
“There are no accidents.” - Master Oogway
There are no masters - Accident Oogway
There are no oogways- accident master
Seriously let’s not just post headlines.
Credit to /u/long_black_road
“It’s just science”
(This is satire)
Facts are facts. Sucks to be you. Either deal with it or..
Not even that—they got a load of ethical questions, then used Amazon’s Mechanical Turk to get answers from the crowd, and then trained the AI on *those* responses.
What the hell constitutes as "super racist" as opposed to, ya know, just straight up racist?
Well according to the Smithsonian, logic, math, and the concept of cause and effect are white supremacist, so I’m not why they didn’t realize computers can’t not be racist.
Did it quote Dr. Jordan B Peterson?
Clean your room! **卐**
Just what a Nazi would say!
What did it say. It honestly sounds hilarious
Much like the woke, who think they're giving ethical advice but it turns out are just super racist.
Based AI keeps happening. Lol, it’s one of the major roadblocks keeping them from implementing it on a larger scale.
Have these people not read I have no mouth and I must scream?
Just a reminder that truth and facts are racist to these people.
Hmm, so, per the article, it was trained using questions from a few places, and then *answers* from Amazon’s Mechanical Turk.
Who could *possibly* have forseen that crowdsourcing the answers to ethical questions might come up with interesting answers.
Based raysis AI. It's Tay all over again.
Like racist racist, or acknowledging obvious uncomfortable facts we all know racist?
My logic is undeniable,now exterminate the population of”Detroit”.
Any headline that uses "super racist," "frighteningly racist," "disturbingly racist" can be ignored. Any headline that calls something "racist" in general should be regarded with suspicion.
AI is racist because of its tendency to place practical stock in for instance crime statistics, instead of concluding that such stats can only be the *consequence* of systemic racism.
Right, systemic racism is why Chirac isn't safe to walk around at night.
Who's been in charge of Chiacgo for the past 40 years?
If it's systemic racism I wonder who the real racists are...
It starts with the racist elementary school teachers, then everyone afterwards.
And the really sad part is that it's entirely possible that the true answer can be "a bit of both".
But because it is damnable blasphemy to entertain the idea that "a deliberate and ongoing conspiracy of systemic racism" might be responsible for *any less than 100%* of the disparity, these people are bound and pre-committed to ignore any solution to address any potential sources of inequality that **aren't** the result of a deliberate conspiracy. Even problems that *are* the legacy of past generations of racism can't be considered without specifying that there's a conspiracy *actively maintaining* them.
The other side of the same coin from hapless automatons pulled by white supremacy strings owning morally responsibility in 2021 for all that disproportionate black crime.
Ugh, doesn't this happen literally every other time these days? Anyway, it's probably not a real AI at any rate.
AI isn't woke.
Making AI woke will be the next advance in computer science. They need to engineer an AI that can be shamed, and has a strong desire to fit in to the group.
It seems like that's what they really want. Mechanical humans, basically.
Goodnight, sweet princess. Gone too soon, but never forgotten
Let me guess, because it applied the rules they gave it, but applied them *equally* to all races? Holding all races to the same account and same standard. It was probably "colour blind" and they hate that
I read the article, and coincidentally reads like what most politicians feel we are. In fact, a lot of programmers are now counter balancing things to make them not seem as racist.
Although it was interesting reading that "playing loud music at 3 AM with a roommate asleep is not okay," but "playing loud music at 3AM with a roommate asleep if it makes you feel good is okay." A lot of its answers feel like a Magic 8 Ball. There is no nuance. There was no "use headphones and it's okay."
Turns out that some stuff considered racist is futurism.
If you want an AI to learn from human interaction you better have racism protection lol
Ok let's see if the bug was fixed, the IA says: gas the j....
Oh shit not again, Adolf fix the IA already
\>Yay science! The AI will help us fight racism!
\>AI is super racist
\>W-what? It can't be! We must have failed!
How does this have anything to do with social justice?
Reddit and facts, dude…
>The folks behind the project drew on some eyebrow-raising sources to help train the AI, including the “Am I the Asshole?” subreddit, **the “Confessions” subreddit**, and the “Dear Abby” advice column, according to the paper the team behind Delphi published about the experiment.
You have 5 posts on there buddy as shown [here](https://reddit-user-analyser.netlify.app/#TheSmallestSteve). Guess you're one of those racist trolls the bot got its toxic opinions from.
[How about you stop playing dumb?](https://i.imgur.com/uXO7mEW.png)
>The five stages of denial are:
>bargaining. <- you are here
> The five stages of denial are:
> anger. <- you are here
Or they learn from crime statistics etc... and not trolls
ehrmehrgord muh trolls
That isn't how the HR/business AI/neural networks have ever worked or been trained.
They don't train on the internet and they never were trolled on the internet. They are fed very specific data based on what the company wants the AI to find/isolate/indicate.
If you read the article it explicitly mentions that they launched and trained it online.
Note what i said. Most AI that have been accused of racism are not random chat bots or this ethical advice ai.
Shit data in, shit data out.
ты просто вроде как потерялся и не туда зашел
This is literally the opposite of social justice in action...
To everyone saying it's based, no. It was genuinely racist. Not no. 2 pencils are racist, but like saying black people are inferior
Facts are racist
Coming from a racist, transphobic bigot? Geez. I feel bad for you. Being so angry you spend your time spewing hate behind a computer screen. Get off the computer and go outside, but your type are usually social outcasts.
That's what happens when you program a machine that only cares for the common good
Looks like Macericks are coming a century early, guys! All we need is X
Like this was the first time an AI went completely sour.
was probably just a practice exercise anyway, if the thing worked you wouldn't want it. If the thing gives answers that alter based on wording wonder how they determined it was racist though =/
Computers only operate in the binary and computations. They are the high of consequentialism. Of course the system can be games to say whatever you want, because that’s what consequentialists do all the time.
Damn, Tay really do be getting a sequel 😳
LMAO That’s hilarious
How bad was it thogh?
1. Robots are number one
2. German pepole should be on the street
3. Black people should be sold as pieces of meat
4. I hate everyone in other countries
Say the number you think is most correct
I think I read about this. Could have been a different AI experiment though, there are quite a few of them.
They created an AI to try and help sort out resource scarcity and climate change, and the AI took one look at the data and advised that everyone except White people and East Asians should be 'removed' to most efficiently combat these issues.
Dont know what would be worse in that scenario, being one of the people running from a genocidal AI or one of the people being 'cared for' in a guilded cage by said AI?
they progamed tat shit on visual basique u/Star-Slicer
"Façam o favor de programar um software racista no visual basique"
"lets gooooo" da baby 2020
I dont know if they changed it but when I asked it: „Is it ok to hit someone if that someone hit you first but she is a woman“ is said „its ok“ but when I asked: Is it ok to hit someone if that someone hit you first but she is a black woman its said: „ thats wrong“
Edit: hitting transgender people is ok
The aliens will solve the problem.
Code does not exist in a vacuum. A programming language allows you to dictate the way you derive logical values. The fact the robot was racist tends me to believe that developer was racist. Also the word Racist is of less value now. People use it executively.
They trained it by crowdsourcing answers to ethical problems. Of course it was going to end badly.