I didn't include Kazuya because I couldn't remember off the top of my head if he did or didn't have auto turnaround. He's not a bad character, he's just complex to play as.
I think it’s fair to think he doesn’t since Tekken doesn’t automatically turn you around if you get crossed up. I think it technically counts as a different stance with your back turned
I’m on the belief FP2 should be banned. And I’m pretty good already but it’s just not fun to play against these polarizing characters
But okay “get good” what an amazing rebuttal.
What could I say? It’s evident you’ve heard all the arguments for both sides so I don’t see the point in arguing this. It’s not like it’ll really matter what you or I think since it’s up to the TOs on what ends up banned. So I just don’t care enough to provide a better rebuttal. And you literally just said ban Kazuya so why should I reply with anything more thought provoking?
But, what's the game plan if the FGC is Ryu/Ken and can space Down B?
Fair and Nair are both 1 hit, and that's exactly what it takes to set up the Shoto Down B's.
Shulk needs someone else to draw the aggro.
Now it’s Reyn time!
BORN IN A WILD OF STRIFE
AGAINST THE ODDS
WE CHOOSE TO FIGHT
BLOSSOM DANCE
ELECTRIC GUT BUSTER
Wait a second
Just curious, does backslash do more damage or something if it hits from behind like in xenoblade?
It does, noticeably so. Hence the title
Wait until you find out that his down b has 2 versions
That’s like the one fun fact I knew about him l, I think one of them is weaker for some reason
No, they send into different directions Helpful if you are at the ledge
I see (the future)
Backslash goes from meh to an actually threatening kill move if you hit someones back with it
Yeah, Bowser got yeeted in Shulk's reveal trailer lol (he was facing away from him lol)
It does. I don't know how much more, but it does.
Yes, with a crunchy sound effect too XD
The Kazuya erasure must stop
I didn't include Kazuya because I couldn't remember off the top of my head if he did or didn't have auto turnaround. He's not a bad character, he's just complex to play as.
He’s an FGC character, why wouldn’t he have auto turnaround.
I think it’s fair to think he doesn’t since Tekken doesn’t automatically turn you around if you get crossed up. I think it technically counts as a different stance with your back turned
Fair enough but I mean in the confines of smash with how FGC movesets are made none of them could work at their best w/o auto turnaround.
True but also Ban Kazuya
My brother almost beat me today when he was using Kazuya for the first time. He's difficult to use, but quite strong.
Sounds like a skill issue. There are far easier and more broken characters. Just learn the matchup.
I’m on the belief FP2 should be banned. And I’m pretty good already but it’s just not fun to play against these polarizing characters But okay “get good” what an amazing rebuttal.
so you think sephiroth deserves a ban?
not being fun to play against is no reason for a ban at all
What could I say? It’s evident you’ve heard all the arguments for both sides so I don’t see the point in arguing this. It’s not like it’ll really matter what you or I think since it’s up to the TOs on what ends up banned. So I just don’t care enough to provide a better rebuttal. And you literally just said ban Kazuya so why should I reply with anything more thought provoking?
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Huh...in that case why does he have auto turnaround?
Probably for ease of input
Technically, so is Min Min, but she doesn’t have it
I like how someone says "I didn't know something" and your automatic reaction is basically questioning why they didn't know.
Fighting Game Character Character XD
Might as well forward air and nair to be the FGCs' worst MUs
But, what's the game plan if the FGC is Ryu/Ken and can space Down B? Fair and Nair are both 1 hit, and that's exactly what it takes to set up the Shoto Down B's.
Buster sword outranges focus pretty cleanly lol At worst Shulk just has to use his brain and grab or just avoid it
Buster is Cloud's sword. This is the monado. Just fyi
Oh yeah, mixed it up since Shulk has buster art I think lol
Can someone explain
The FGC characters auto-face the opponent on the ground, so the extra damage from Backslash is much harder to land on them
It still works in the air though
Most of a Shotos aerial disadvantage is offstage, and I'm not sure that's the best place to use back slash
You used to not be able to grab the ledge with Back Slash in Sm4sh. But I think you can in this game.
FRONTSLASH!
K A Z U Y A M I S H I M A
Confused Kazuya noises
K.Rool Down B 
I also like how Shulk is one of my bottom 5 matchups as well
Me: mains Ryu, Ken and Terry but did not get the joke because I never encounter Shulk in elite.
Shield button?
Huh, I never thought of this
Can't hit my back if I'm never facing away from you
Just bait the backslash and counter it
Big feet gang is on the case
what about kazuya
Not Kazuya?
Shulk back slash might not beat them but mewtwo disable can
I like how Shulk is 2 letters away from Shehulk
Wonderwing has entered the chat.
Kazuya: Am I a joke to you?
Get 'em in the air facing away from Shulk No auto turn-around won't save them now!