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Perfectly normal reaction...fucking barbarians
Throwing shoes at a dead burning man is a weird touch. I get how it is an insult to throw shoes at someone in that part, but I’m sure he won’t know.
Yeah is bizarre but, you shouldn't lynch someone over something so stupid
Religion is a poison of the mind. Avoid at all cost
Pakistan is a shithole. It’s one of those countries the world would just be better without.
21st century weaponry coupled with a 6th century mindset. What could go wrong?
Surprised but proud this is getting upvoted on Reddit.
This. My parents and all their siblings left the country because the people there are insane. We’re from a minority Muslim sect and they even kill us.
I’m glad you guys got out and are safe!
Glad you guys are safe now bro
All of our countries are shit holes if you're going to paint with a brush.
We just discovered the Catholic Church has been quietly burying Indigenous children all around their numerous properties classed as "residential schools" while our cousins to south are celebrating a kid killing protestors and jailing people who try and abort their uncle's baby...
The collective "we" just really really suck at the moment so be careful in our glass houses.
Go to a large Canadian city and scream fuck jesus, then do the same Islamabad about mohammed. One might get you a fine, the other will get you lynched!
Islamabad? You don't need to go that far, remember the Charlie hebdo incident? And in India a christian guy's limbs were chopped off on blasphemy accusations, and a hindu guy brutally was killed by goons out in the open because he released a book on mohommad's life.
You won’t even get fined in Canada you’ll probably make some new friends…
They’re about 1700 years behind over there… just saying and life obviously has little to no value.
Can confirm, I yelled fuck Jesus in timmies and nothing happened
Your point is made but I should ask why would you even considering doing anything like that in the first place if you KNOW what the consequences will be?
I have zero sympathy for those that intentionally provoke an expected response regardless of how insane that response is.
Agreed totally, I'm just pointing out it's nigh impossible to be strung up on public for ANY other religion, except islam. I'm not agianst it as a religion, I think personally they are all bad, but as far modern day extremism goes Islam is a clear winner.
So no sympathy for the guy on fire there?
You’re absolutely right. The “we” does suck.
I never said nor will I deny my daily contribution and "I" does form part of "we".
Specific to your comment...did he blatantly walk into that crowd looking to antagonize them or was it a "hey...there's someone different, let's burn him"... situation?
If it was the latter...I do feel for that individual. Although if they went looking a fight. They got the horns.
The debate isn't about does the punishment vs the crime, it's about why would someone antagonize a group knowing the consequences can be dire?
Of course he knows what he did could get him killed. He’s a factory manager in Pakistan which means he’s not new to Pakistan and knows how it operates and to know to not spark up religious stuff if he isn’t about it.
Yes, bad, but u'll find many christians criticizing that. But muslims criticizing barbarism? They literally JUSTIFY it.
Dumb take. It's all depending where you live. Ask Muslims in Pakistan and yes, you will get people defending it.
Ask American Muslims and they would say hell no.
Have you ever interacted with a Muslim before? I've seen Christians blame girls for being raped and saying it's an act of God. Should we label all Christians as bad and evil?
I think you really should expand on who does what to whom when comparing those two religions.
You're going to tell us that supposed Christians demonizing young women seeking an abortion because she was raped isn't "barbaric" by today's standards? Or claiming how God gives them the right to own a firearm and then proceed to idolize a child who broke the Sixth Commandment?
Who's "justifying" what exactly?
I'm not a Christian.
Show me the verse in the bible which encourages whites not to abort a child which is the outcome of rape.
Show me the verse which encourages christians to own an automatic ar or pistols?
Constitution and religion qre 2 different things.
Now, i can provide you with filthy sources which encourage muslims to spread, hatered, chaos, promote incest, murder innocents, treat women like breeding machines and rest of the filth one can think of.
You've just proven the point I was trying to make.
Some interpret things one way while others will interpret it the other way...on the very same subject.
I'm certainly no man of Faith but I with some time I can cherry pick the exact Verses needed to "show" you that God doesn't like abortions or...anything down to puppies really (He did kill all living beings on the planet with the floods...so God's wrath against the puppies is real).
Both...ALL sides suck and all sides are shattering their glass houses hence why I stated...people really really suck.
Btw, here's a few "cherry picked" verses which proke violence, there are many many more out there in the filthy quran
"you've proven the point i was trying to make", when you can't come up with anything to cover up the filth.
Anyways, what "god" did or didn't do is a state of whether you believe in him or not, but what rapist warlord pedophile mohommad did was next level filthy because he bragged about it and there has been written record about it. And muslims follow his command. So islam is way more nasty then anything ever could be.
Crazy, I didn't see any of that stuff in the Quran.
You must have a copy from a different publisher than myself.
No i don't, don't follow the books if you don't speak arabic, they have been heavily altered to whitewash the cult. Watch youtube or other sources. Specifically the videos by exmuslims.
Can you find me a source in Islam that allows you to burn people alive or dead?
Even if this particular end was injust, the command to kill the disbeliever is core. Hell, even the verse that everyone likes to partially post as evidence that Islam is peaceful, makes it explicit that ["corruption" is to be punished with torture and death](https://legacy.quran.com/5/33).
Ok good so you accept that the burning was unjust. So this Mob of Men were clearly unjustified in doing that. Unequivocally. From an Islamic pov.
So now you brought up a particular verse, tell me the context of the verse.
For example does it allow me as a Muslim citizen in America to kill a random Christian in America for insulting God?
Give me the context.
lol muslims demonize abortions too. come on now...
Show me where I said they didn't?
Everyone plays the let's the paint an entire group based on the misdeeds of the few. Again...if people are going to paint an entire religion on their worst transgressions, then let's air all religion transgressions.
Amazing how people don't like it when the shoe is on the other foot.
Lmao shut the fuck up. Comparing this to modern day Canada. Fucking move then.
I'm sure Pakistan would love to have you. It's all the same anyway.
Is there evidence of foul play at the churches or are they just cemeteries?
Don’t forget them fucking children for hundreds of years
Why do you say that?
Messing things up for the rest of the subcontinent since the 60s.
Can't even imagine where India Sri Lanka and Bangladesh would be now if they did not have to constantly deal (India most of all) with Pakistan's BS.
Awesome. The first thing I see on Reddit today.
Man that’s harsh, couldn’t they have just gone to HR instead?
Poor fucker. That's some really messed up shit right there
For people wondering the full videos from start to end of them getting the man, torturing him and then burning him is even more gruesome.
People keep telling me that religion is all about ‘love and peace’ yet when things like this are encouraged by the holy books and little boys continue to get raped by older catholic men… the overall assumption one can only come up with is *why*? Why would someone follow such medieval beliefs and act like cavemen?
Okay…so? I can’t remember raping boys in the name of god or beheading people in the name of god or hating people in the name of god… if you want to defend all of that then you do you.
I’m simply pointing out the idiocy of following the doctrine of these medieval believes written by Shepard’s and war lords thousands of years ago…
Proof why religion needs to be eliminated
That's the solution these idiots are trying to implement in Pakistan - eliminate all other solutions.
There are so many Islamic countries that are moderate, where minorities can live in peace, that needs to be the solution.
Brilliant solution. Should be easy to implement.
ahh the religion of peace
Which religion doesn’t have a history of this type of stuff, or in the same spirit of “death to the others”?
Yeah that is why we call it history. Dont think Christians burn each other these days over religious disputes… PS im Turkish and despise Islamic Culture
Well, you can think of it like this (keep in mind I’m an American from New York City who lived here when 9/11 happened and volunteered after near ground zero).
A group of Islamic fundamentalists committed a heinous terrorist attack in American soil. In response, we started a twenty year war against multiple countries. No one knows how many Iraqis or Afghans were killed in that extended military action.
So, as an American Christian New Yorker who also happens to be self aware and (hopefully) not a tremendous racist, I’ve got to ask:
If a dozen white nationalists from France had blown up the World Trade Center, would we have gone to war with all of Europe?
If there was no oil in Iraq, would we have sent troops there for so many years?
How many US and international troops died in combat, from health issues related to the burn pits and chemical exposure, or from suicide related to their immense PTSD?
You can make an argument, and I think this is why the issue with Islamic fundamentalism continues to gain traction, that white American Christians have killed more people than brown Muslim Middle Easterners.
True. The only question is how many more? I wouldn't be surprised if it was two or three times more. Not to mention all the civilians. They did a fucked thing to us, no question. But at the end of the day we aren't much better.
No, but they prevent women from making their own decisions, for instance. And have killed abortion providers, in the name of “God”, in the past.
In the past you say?
Yeah, you know, back in 2005-2006, when this video was apparently filmed.
What difference does it make? People can still do that, in this country.
haven’t seem them on the news recently, first time i have heard of it. I really don’t think it is logical to compare them to Islamic violence, since it is the main threat to civilization today… Of course, every religion has flaws, but i am talking about today, this moment, the middle east, the threat in Europe etc…You know which religion “followers” are more dangerous in today’s world. I don’t really think you can see a video like this in the United States, people burning other people because of religion…
Again, you are missing my point. I am not denying that any nation/culture/civilization/religion had committed atrocities in the past, again emphasizing the “past” plus, i don’t see christians blow themselves up in Pakistan or lynch and burn people at stake if you disrespect Jesus Christ.
I hope that group does not terrorize Pakistan! They seem like a huge threat to Middle East
Mostly abrahamic and monotheistic religions, with their "one true God and nothing else" messages, but these r the explicit ones. Fuck all religions anyway
So everyone's forgotten about the Myanmar genocide.
No. But that wasn't the Buddhists who did it.
I think that was more of an ethnic conflict but don't take my word on it
Correct. End of list.
Oh. And maybe Taoism. Don't know much about their history.
Interesting. I guess I don’t consider it a religion anymore as much as a philosophy. When the communist party came into power they basically eradicated Taoism by “reeducation”. Sadly, I think there are almost no practicing Taoists left.
That's true. There are maybe a few left who really practice Taoism. Sad that the friendliest religions die out.
HISTORY is important word. These inbreds do this in 2021 with smartphones in their hands.
I see religion is still in business and being busy as per usual. Humans are a sad bunch.
This is why I love bands like Deicide.
These fucking neanderthals
“These barbaric acts happen very seldomly….”
“The penalties are severe …”
Almost fell off my chair laughing.
Thank God I live in America… land of the free. “But” when I have an opinion in Reddit that you cunts don’t like, this is what you wish on me. Pinche putos.
How it feels to chew Five Gum
And to think maybe these Molvi are soon gonna be in power and we are fucked
Do they need 50%+ of the votes to be in power? Or does Pakistan have a first past the post system where the largest block can come to power.
Just a reminder to everyone that this is the religion of peace. The same religion which were told is compatible with our western 21st century society. It's also the same religion which the rabid left jump to defend.
Just a reminder that research carried out by muslims on muslims showed that the majority were in favour of sharia law.
Doesn't really look compatible does it.
Could you take your bigotry elsewhere? Why not go have a coffee with Ann Coulter. She likes to exploit tragedies for her ends.
>We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war.
Pretty sure every religion has its share of shameful things. Above is a link of violent and white supremacist/separatist groups that all point to the Bible as justification for murdering people who aren’t following the same faith as them.
But Islamically, burning people alive or even cremating them after death is completely forbidden.
So how can you call this act an Islamic act? Or are you just talking out your ass?
How am I talking out of my arse. They're muslim, they've attacked him under sharia law for being blasphemous. There's no wiggle room in that one. Why and how can you try and even defend them.
A quick google search will show you other cases where muslim mob goes on the rampage and burns someone.
I'd say you're the one talking out your arse.
I've quite clearly labelled their actions as unislamic, even if you think I'm wrong, that's not defending them is it?
I can show you many Muslims drinking alcohol, does that make alcohol permissible in Islam? You know it doesn't. So stop talking out your ass and answer this one question.
Can you show me any Islamic doctrine that says it's ok to burn someone alive or dead?
You may well label it as "unIslamic" but it is blatantly the actions of a rabid Muslim hoard of barbarians enacting sharia law.
1. What is the context of the verse you provided earlier? Why are you ignoring it now?
2. Which part of shariah law are they enacting? Which Islamic lawyer said this was ok? Which Islamic judge sentenced the man to death?
The fact that you just brushed passed my questions shows the weakness of your own claims. As I said, talking out your ass.
Either answer both my points or throw in the towel. Stop regurgitating stuff you know nothing about.
Mate you're spouting complete horse shit. Shame on you, completely and utterly shame on you. Sympathisers such as yourself enable this barbarity as you try to cover up for their actions and ignores the issues.
I'm done with you now and you sealioning trolling.
For anyone else who may jump across this thread.
1. Notice how I've done nothing but condemn the actions of these barbarians. Yet /u/dinklesplat keeps accusing me of sympathising with them. I wonder why he keeps insisting this. Instead of directly addressing my points he finds it easier to just paint me as another one of those in the mob.
2. Notice how he is ready to throw verses at me which is probably grabbed from some website but fails to actually answer questions about them. Resorting to accusing me of sympathising with vigilante mobs.
3. DinkleBrain, do some deep introspection, think about why you resorted to these low tactics when you were challenged head on for the statements you made. If you really had a leg to stand on, you'd have said "Yes that verse allows a random Muslim citizen to kill a Bhuddist". But you didn't say that did you, because you know that's not what Islam permits. If it was, you'd have said that, instead of this outburst.
4. You're not done with me, you didn't even attempt to answer my questions. I'm done with you, unless you want an attempt. I will address your civil answers.
But if you just want to have a childish rant, feel free. You'll get no more responses from me.
These are the images that make people islamophobic. Crazy lengths we go to as people for beliefs no one can even truly prove. Very sad.
To me, "Islamophobia" would be seeing a Muslim and judging them, hating them, harrassing them, or committing a hate crime against them simply because they are Muslim. However, someone criticizing the religion for different reasons isn't Islamophobic. I have Christian family, coworkers...similar to how I know Muslims as well. Though I truly detest Christianity and Islam, I wouldn't judge the entirety of a religion based on one video, nor would I hate every single Christian or Muslim just by the actions of some (might be an understatement, but you get me). I do loathe the two religions, but I am able to respect a Christian or a Muslim if they aren't like this, which many of them aren't, but many of them still are sadly.
I guess what I'm trying to say is, if someone is going to allow a video to make them hate every Muslim that walks the earth, they're just as insane.
So you got me but not all the way. I know what islamophobia is. Just making a point that ignorant people will judge all Muslims. Seeing videos like this does not help the case. Just stating my opinion with peoples logic.
I love how Indians keep posting anti Muslim content.
Scrolling through your posts, your 'modi outside the white house in 1994' and other pro Modi content ISA give away.
Notice you didn't post the Modi government ministers son driving through and killing the Sikh protestors?
Yes, this is exact mindset we need to fix problems of Pakistan
He reposted on the same sub a hour after it was posted by someone else.
But you watching this video and commenting on here helps solve Pakistani problems how exactly?
Many Pakistanis do the same thing. And several subs like r/worldnews have mods which delete any post or comment which is pro-india
all religion is a societal cancer.
Currently, only one religion churns out this kind of violence on a consistent basis.
It's probably because bullets are still easy to get here
Hindu mobs are making another rise in recent years against Muslims as well.
Don't forget Bhuddist genocide of the Rohingyans.
But its only when you see Muslims do this still that people suddenly think "hmm something is different about Islam" lol.
As if the KKK isn't a Christian organisation who'd do this stuff if they could get away with it again.
Hindus have a ways to go before they're remotely an equal. They're definitely working at it, no doubt about that.
The Myanmar thing is communal violence. No one's citing Buddhist verses or making overt statements of faith, much less anyone dedicating it to Lord Buddha's supposed will. It's more "They will not replace us!" racism than "God is great!" zealotry.
I think they just have the most attention getting panache…Hindus, Buddhists and Christians all pull the same bullshit.
[here’s a link of some Christian affiliated violent hate groups in the US](https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch?f%5B0%5D=field_ideology%3A168)
They also have by far the most actual victims. You could gather up the dead from all the others and they still wouldn't even be able to compete.
You have a source for that claim? I’m interested in learning about that.
Finding somewhere that bothers compiling information like this feels like a fraught affair. Wish I had a trusted one on hand, but I just don't.
This is an observation over time, regarding actually ***explicitly religious motivated*** attacks and conflicts. Without being awfully loose on the motivations, there's rarely anything of comparable scale (to the Nice Truck Attack, or Mumbai Attacks, or these incessant lynchings) out of any other faith-group.
I have a feeling the fact that he was a factory manager was what caused the issue and the blasphemy was added on at the end to justify the lynching.
Yep, according to local Pakistani papers his own workers reported him for blasphemy and then the mob administered Lynch Justice.
Probably something related to work disguised as blasphemy for immunity from prosecution.
Why is sick shit repeatedly being posted? I don't go on Reddit to see a murdered person being burned, religion's are fucked and twisted
Then don't watch the video.
How about OP’s following the rules about no posts about death/murder?
I wasn't aware of that! Oops. I stand corrected.
Didn't have much choice as it auto played as I scan down my sub list.
Yeah, you're right. Well, I have mine blurred for NSFW. So, I wasn't being as considerate. And apparently there is a rule for no death/murder in the sub. And I can understand if you're scrolling in public, and a video like that pops up...yeah not good. I'd recommend blurring NSFW though lol.
Why is this getting downvoted?
Rule 8; No videos involving death/murder
I think they prefer donkeys
So they like Ass?
I hate the religion, but you do realize that not all Muslims are like this right? Not all Muslims condone this.
Every Islamic person I've ever met or came across is nazi about the religion in one way or another
Yeah, a lot of them are violent, and I think the religion itself is a train wreck, but you sound similar to a nazi by advocating for the deaths of "Islamic pieces of shit"...it really sounds like you're generalizing and wishing Muslims would just die. That's fucked.
Yeah you're right maybe we can just forget about all those fucking idiot for let him all burn themselves to the ground suck a dick
You should enlist in the military then. They’ll let you kill as many as you want with little to no repercussions! They don’t even care if you attack civilians or children, and you might even get to torture a few. Manifest your dreams!
Are you in the miltary?
Nope. First generation in my family to say no to service. And I know I’m being hyperbolic, but I hate when people suggest just indiscriminately murdering an entire country of people. 10/10 whoever is regurgitating that vile rhetoric will not go fight for what they believe in.
This is what Christians want America to be like.
Ahh yes. Good ol religion.
It’s okay, their god approves. 🙄
Religions are fuckin gross, all of em
Not graphic. Just a fire.
I'm not saying things like this don't happen but really there is NO proof whatsoever that there is a body within that fire.
Everybody assumes so because of the title🎄
All he said was, "That piece of halibut was good enough for Allah"
Can anyone confirm that is a body on fire?
Can’t confirm but I see legs and feet sticking out
That has to smell horrible
there is too much of the wrong kind of education
Seems a little primitive
Meanwhile in US, a bunch of chair carrying virgin white boys are protesting abortion
We use to burn, hang and chop off heads in public, it's strange to see it on film. Creepy chanting and all. It's weird just how into it they all are.
They’re so incredibly progressive.
Smells like bacon. Oh wait
Pakistan,the arsehole of the world.
What a pious community
Play stupid games...
Wait so they tortured and killed him because of what? Can someone explain please
Peaceful people doing peaceful things as mentioned by their peace ambassador PM Imran Khan
I’m SriLankan and just here to remind everyone that while while this is predictably horrifying if it did happen, there’s a good chance this is not what it claims to be. We have our own religious lunatics who love to stoke anti Muslim sentiment. Please wait until you know this is what it claims to be before getting all riled up.
Wonder what that smells like ..
Mods removed this!! Why?
Exactly what allah wants. Mashallah, he has only the finest people carrying out his will. Alhumdillah🙏🏻 religion is disgusting in every form, jim jones or jesus. Its all an excuse to behave like this.
I'm confident that this is the same footage my brothers and I watched in like 2005-2006
What's your point. Even if it was, your religion hasn't changed it's view points and reactions has it. Acts of backwards barbarity still go on and try to be justified by your religion.
My dude, trying to label anonymous people doesn't work lmfao. I'm not Muslim nor do I accept any religion. I'm simply saying that this footage is most likely old as fuck. Take yo dumb ass somewhere else cause yo bullshit isn't warranted here.
This is not an old footage.This incident took today in pakistan.Go on twittter its trending
We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war.
In regards to a video of a crowd of random citizens spontaneously lynching someone for blasphemy, your leading claim to other religions having similar problems is some ass-head ***saying*** gross shit...
Exactly. Except she wasn’t a random citizen. She’s the head Karen of an anti-Islam, Christian domination movement. A “respected” spokesperson of a totalitarian political movement and of the GOP. Banning Muslims from traveling to the US didn’t originate with Trump. And boy howdy we killed civilians in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Who've yet to lynch or murder ***anyone*** in the explicit name of faith. She's not even a part of the issue, *yet*.
You'd think this consistent failure to find comparable examples of religious extremism, would *eventually* get through to people that they're simply not comparable situations...
Preach on, brother. Don’t forget your burning cross at the next meeting.
r/antiwork is close to this.
In America, the worst of us cherry pick messages in the Bible to fit our narrative and have committed heinous crimes because of it.
This same garbage happens in Arabic countries too, just switch the book out for the Quran.
Religion as a whole is the problem, and has been holding humans back for centuries, but the people in power know it's a great way to control the people.
We're all wrong, and there isn't one human on Earth that knows the mysterious details of why we're here. Let's all just hold hands, fuck, and smoke good weed and be nice to eachother, and if there's an omniscient God out there, he'll let us into "heaven" for being nice chill people, not for burning people alive.