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KeepThemmunsOut

Ironically this (Ulster loyalist) poster includes some Irish language text around the crest (top middle). Ironic given that the language in question is pretty much an anathema to their 21st century counterparts. On a different note while their concerns about *Rome Rule* and aversion to *Papal Decrees* are somewhat understandable what do they have against *American dollars* ? I mean who doesn't like some American dollars ? Hell Ill even take some Canadian dollars if there's any going !


Azhini

That's a spectacular false equivilency as they go


KeepThemmunsOut

[Molly Maguires](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molly_Maguires) (a radical leftist organisation comprising mostly of Irish-Americans) and the [Ancient order of ~~Homophobes~~ Hibernians](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Order_of_Hibernians) (Arch conservative Catholic fraternal organisation) shouldn't really be referenced together ?


Boston-Beaneater

I’ll take #2


KeepThemmunsOut

With extra *American Dollars* but hold the *Papal Decrees* ?


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I feel like this is the probrexit propaganda i never saw. I don't know the harp snake one but it looks like the Don't Tread on Me flag so much. "Do you want to be out there with the ratty French, Yanks, and Pirates boycotting!" I can't stop looking at this image, it's so literally relevant to our headcanon out here in Middle America that I can't compute how I don't know what any of the words mean.


KeepThemmunsOut

The green harp flag used to represent Ireland or (depending on context) Irish nationalism although even at the time this poster was produced had been largely supplanted in the latter context by the Irish tricolour. The inclusion of the French and American flags is more of a puzzle. Historically there was some loyalist suspicion at the revolutionary nature of American/French/Irish nationalist politics but this worldview (in respect of the former two) would have been pretty dated even by 1920 standards ? Im wondering if the OP has the date correct. It would make somewhat more sense in the 19th century ? Then again the references to [Devlin](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Devlin) and [Redmond](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Redmond) would fit the early 20th.


StormEyeDragon

I mean just because something is dated wouldn’t mean propagandists wouldn’t use it. “Muh evil French cAtHoliCs” and “foreigner ‘Murica dollars” would be typical British Empire propaganda in any timeframe. And the date is probably right given that the 1920’s the issue of Ulster leaving the British Empire to join the Freshly Independent Irish Republic would be a very new and sore issue. In the 1800’s there wouldn’t be an Independent Irish state for Ulster to join.


KeepThemmunsOut

In the latter part of the 19th century there were several proposals for (if not fully independent somewhat autonomous) Irish governments which never got off the ground -mostly as a result of intense opposition from the same quarters. On the other hand you're probably correct. Outdated prejudices are hardly an unknown phenomenon among the more conservative parts of the constituency in question. Although still a bit strange given that the US, UK and France had just fought a war together.


nate11s

Question settled, Ulster is part of the USA.