By - Kamizlayer
Sennheiser HD 599
Open back headphones. They have good staging for Music and Gaming. Perfect for using indoors.
Yes! I'm using it with Peace EQ. Made a ton of difference.
Another vote for the 599s. Get a decent dac amp and you're set for music and gaming. The imaging is great too for competitive fps. Just don't have a significant other who works by your side when you game so you'll have to go for a closed back headphone 😞
Am i missing something? Clearly this headphone is over 10k everywhere and OP has a budget of 10k. I'm confused.
I think they're referring to the special edition on amazon
get the special edition from amazon (black) same as the other but half price.
Wrong, it's same or better than HD 598 - which has been a favourite for YEARS.
my apologies I read it wrong, thought they were talking about the HD559 which is quite wonky to say the least. HD599 is much better yes
Kindof a had idea incase he goes outside which he klmight, but there is a killer deal on them rn
AKG K361/371 - not so great build quality, but tuned close to Harman target, very good for music. Imaging decent, soundstage narrow. 371 has more subbass.
Shure SRH440/SRH840 - 440 cheaper, tuned to Harman, much better build quality than above. 840 closer to 10k, more V shaped. Shure has 2 year warranty on HPZ.
Hifiman HE400SE - The most neutral, with best tuning imo. Best all rounder for music & gaming. Open back, planar, so much heavier than above. Better buy from Amazon or HPZ as you might run into QC issues.
Sennheiser HD599 - Worst tuned among these. But decent for gaming as these are open back. Standard Sennheiser build and quality, 2 year warranty, a safe & boring choice.
Audio Technica ATH-M40X - Mostly neutral, good imaging, but very narrow soundstage. Will last a long time, but may be uncomfortable with stock pads, can swap for Brainwavz pads instead.
Koss KSC75/KPH30I - IMO, save a bunch of money and get both of these. Amazing sound, unbelievable vfm. Great for gaming as well.
My personal pick if I were you: Take a gamble and get the best - HE400SE.
Or, don't take a gamble, save money and the get the Koss headphones instead.
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The 400SE while priced at below 10k will not work without a dedicated amp for optimal performance. This pretty much applies for any planar magnetic headphones. Also mentioning the soundstage in headphones below 10k is quite pointless especially when it comes to closed back headphones.
Thank you for the detailed recommendations. I will take my time reading it and thinking about what is being said.
Hey, quick question, I'd assume if I were to buy any of these a DAC is a must?
I'm going to assume that you were referring to an AMP with your query and not a DAC. For any planar magnetic headphones yes. While some of them are advertised to work from your phone/pc etc the reality is yes it'll give you sound but even if you increase the volume levels to max you'll hardly get a good listening experience because of the sensitivity values which are not great. Regarding the other closed back headphones mentioned in the list above they are not power hungry and should work from most sources if not all quite well.
He400se or sennheiser hd599. I have 400se
I have e10k AMP. Are these any good? Thinking of getting HE400SEmy usage: spotify, flac music, gaming and discord, twitch
I value details in song
Yeah you will love them. If you want mpre neutral tho get sennheiser, hifiman has some nice bass
Most people are recommending wired headphones but since you said your preference was wireless, I'd say wait for a sale the Sony headphones like the xb900N/xb910N/H910N get quite cheap and at around 10-12k, as far as wireless over ear headphones are concerned, you probably can't do better. I won't recommend them for gaming but it can be done.
I've been using the xb900n for a little over 2 years now. Both for music and competitive gaming. They're great.
quite shitty headphones, will not recommend. treble is too harsh which is guaranteed to lead to tinnitus after a while
I agree about the treble. So I think good option is MH751/752
hifiman he400se or akg k371/k361 are good options
Hifiman has terrible QC.
¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯ cant do much about that
K361bt as op prefers bluetooth
k361bt is worse in terms of sound than the k361. mostly cuz they had to fit in a bunch of bluetooth stuff in the same chassis so it ended up changing the acoustic performance as well
I agree. I came from wireless to wired when my pads got destroyed. There was a significant difference. I also chose replaceable pads one
Would you say wireless is not worth it?(for you)
I wouldn't say not worth it, but I can deal with wires
Bluetooth is ass on windows, plus all the major gaming headsets with dongles have ass sound quality.
Buy a audiophile grade headphone and get a separate mic
Are AKG k371 even available in India? Can't seem to find them anywhere
apparently not, though the difference between the k361 and k371 isnt as big so you could just get the k361 instead
Have heard people on reddit vouch for 371 and it's bass performance, why isn't it available in India :/
is this a thing ? more trebel leads to tinitus ?
Not comfortable for long use at all. Anything longer than 2-3 hours is going to give you ear fatigue.
And yeah it’s really harsh, but you will get used to it eventually.
Owned it for 4 years. Excellent soundstage though.
using ath 50x from last 5 years, it is great for both media consumption and gaming
Audio Technica ATH M50x
Got my Moonlight Aria yesterday, it's awesome. I liked in even gaming (primary csgo) and for music, it's meant to be good for that.
It doesn't have a mic so either get a cord which has a mic or get an external mic prolly Maono ones.
Mine total cost was around 7k+4k.
Earlier had plans to use bayerdynamic but the 80 ohms one required a DAC so didn't consider that.
Razer Kraken was also an option but I'm loving what I bought.
honestly i would just get a good iem and call it a day.
Dt 770 pro. Get the 80 ohms.
Another option is the hifiman he400se but they have qc issues.
unrelated but how are \[sony pulse 3d headphones made for ps5\]([https://www.amazon.in/PULSE-3D-Wireless-Headset-PlayStation/dp/B08FC6QLKN](https://www.amazon.in/PULSE-3D-Wireless-Headset-PlayStation/dp/B08FC6QLKN)) I am planning to use it for PC gaming.
As a standalone Headphone it is quite bad from a sound quality perspective. There are better options available like the akg k361
Just take any headphone of Sony branding.
They are good for long term experience.
Can confirm this. A few are there at home body and everything went bad but they work like charm . Also vouch for Sennheiser, they give very natural sound.
Have one HD 598 SR (same as 599) for sale with new earpads on TE at half your budget if you are interested in used.
Havnt done my research for music but i use hyperX' alpha pros and they've served me really well over the the last 3 years. Sound quality on par with my brother's Sony 20k headphones I'd say the only thing I like more about the Sony ones is the noise cancellation. U can get them for 7kish. They're used by alot of pro players aswell
Sennheiser HD 569 - I've them for past 2 years, closed back(for home/work/gaming/music), over the ear, comfortable but on heavier side and cost around 12k inr.
It has netural sound signature and doesn't induce any extra base. I like sennheiser sound signature, been using the same brand for past 6 years.
If you are okay with pre owned ones I saw some Sony 1000xm4s being sold for around 10-12k on Olx. One even had a month's warranty. In case of wireless headphones, you won't be getting anything better then these.
AudioTechnica ath m50x
Another vote for HD599se along with AutoEQ
I don't recommend it for music without AutoEQ (except a few genres on which it actually sounds better without the AutoEQ)
I recommend the hd400s. It costs about 4k rupees but you can find it for cheaper on Amazon. It is really damn good for the price and it is a closed back headphone, so you can wear it in public and sound won't leak out. I am still using mine after like 3 years and they are really great!
Get Sony (for basshead)/Sennheiser(for natural sound) bluetooth for portability. They will lost for years. Awesome sound and mic. I have Sony CN700, another old Sony and Sennheiser HD450 for 3-4 years. The earcups worn out but no issue with sound or mic or battery.
Razer Blackshark V2X on Amazon, am using them since quite sometime, very good imo but they are wired
Razer peripherals fall apart way way way too soon. Especially their audio stuff.
Idk I have been using my kraken tournament ones for the past 3 years, and it's held up quiet well, I have used it very very roughly, on my bed, in my setup, casually banging it around while it's on me, it has even fallen on the floor sometimes. The same goes for my basilisk, I have been using it since launch for minecraft pvp uptil 2021 buttery fly clicking, bought that also in 2019 May, I use everyday, I have not gone a single day without using it and its just working fine, the rubber had degraded a lot so I bought a G502 in August 2021, whose rubber grip is already in a worse condition than razer, I play a lot of valorant on it too and use it all day long for work as my main mouse. Overall I would recommend Razer more than Logitech as per my experience XD
Thank me later.
Buy any pair of KZ wired headphones.
They are IEMS.
Then buy the wireless module (AZ 09pro) to make them Bluetooth.
he has the budget why recommend cheap ones ? and he wanted wireless headset
Most Kz iems are quite meh, there are much better options available at each price bracket
Sub 5000 bucks thats the best sound ive heard.
I know they are neutral sounding but I'm totally not into bass so....works like a charm for me.
The bog standard kz tuning is anything but natural. Its very bassy and vshaped, with spiky treble. You mightve used a couple kz iems but there are a lot better options available on the market.
Which specific iem do you have? Because as far as i remember KZ has pretty much never dwelved into neutral tuning
Zsn pro x
yep, those are very v shaped and have muddy bass. thats not neutral by any stretch of imagination
Yeah well I've never used headphones above 5k range so to me they're pretty much good.
This is compared to stuff like the sennheiser cx270 and the other random crap that the likes of jbl sony and skullcandy(do they even exist?) etc produces and even the nothing ear 1.
What would you recommend though?
List of good headphones/earphones
\~<1k samsung x AKG EO-IG955
\~1k Moondrop quarks (not recommended unless very tight budget)
\~1.4k CCA CRA (bassy signature, solid choice at its price)
\~1.6k Moondrop spaceship (discontinued, successor coming soon)
\~1.7k finalaudio E1000
\~2k Blon BL-03 (budget king for balanced v shape, has enough of everything which makes pleasing to everyone)
\~2k Tanchjim tanya (if you want a traditional bullet style earphone)
\~2k 7hz Salnotes Zero (neutral signature, if you like vocals focused iems this is good)
\~2k moondrop chu (neutral signature, if you like vocals focused iems this is good)
\~ 2.2k CCA CRA+ (Very similar to blon bl03, also very good)
\~2.3k kz dq6s
\~2.7k finalaudio E2000
\~2.7k KZ CRN / Zex pro (for neutral sound)
\~3.5k moondrop super spaceship pulse/SSP
\~3.5k moondrop super spaceship reference/SSR (Neutral sounding than the SSP)
\~4.5k TIN HiFi T2-Plus
\~5k Tripowin x HBB mele
\~5.5k TIN Hifi T3 plus
\~7.5k moondrop ARIA
\~10k etymotic ER2SE/ER2XR
\~10.5k moondrop starfields
\~2k QCY T5
\~7k lypertek TEVI
NOTE: for budget under 6k, IEM earphones will provide overall better audio quality and value for money than headphones (with the exception of koss ksc75). That being said, if you really only want headphones then i have listed some, but you will be loosing out on quality in that case.
\~2-2.5k samson sr850
\~3k Koss ksc75 (basically the go-to for gaming if you really care about competitive advantage. will perform better than any gaming headset by a longshot)
\~6k AKG K361
\~6k AKG K361bt (bluetooth version of k361, slightly worse than k361 in acoustic performance)
\~8k shure srh440
\~10k Hifiman HE400SE
For a more detailed guide and comparison visit here:
headphone rankings: https://crinacle.com/rankings/headphones/
iem rankings: https://crinacle.com/rankings/iems/
Holy smokes that is fucking comprehensive.
Thanks a lot bud!
Do you mind if i DM you before i decide to buy something?
Edit: I'm also guessing the iems in the list with a C-pin will be compatible with my Bluetooth adaptors right.
Bro earlier i was thinking to buy corsair hs50 pro which also costs 3k and now m thinking to buy koss ksc75... can u recommend some cheap decent mic with it aswell?? I will not do any task that needs good sound quality just will play games and need it to talk with people in game
Boya BY-M1 would be your best choice for a cheap mic imo.
Hey I bought akg 361, thanks for all the recommendations! (Got it for like 4700) with the sbi offers and some cash back.
Frequency response for the kz zsn pro, both the pro and pro x are same in sound performance