Why did you buy an RS over an STI?
By - Z4Zoloft
I wanted a hatch. More HP/TQ. Better styling (imo). Legacy Vehicle, end of the line; no qualms about the next MY having better xyz, or the next generation doing abc (like the Golf R getting the digital dash).
STI is a bellybutton car. Everyone has one….
Along with all the other great reasons people have posted I’ll add, we’re coming to the end of combustion engines so my wife and I think about that as we buy cars now. I plan on keeping mine forever, a three year run for it in the USA plus no other manufactures are going to put a lot of effort into new competition? That sounds like the end of an era, and when I am old and my grandkids are kicking around my garage after they pull up
In they’re all electric cars it’s going to be a blast to share such a gem with my family. Other old guys might have STI’s, Golfs or even mustangs and chargers but they are everywhere and everyone could get there hands on one. I won’t go as far as to say we got it as an investment, cause that’s not a great way to spend investment cash, but we certainly got it with collecting it in mind. Oh yeah, and it’s a AWD 4 cyl monster on the roads out here in the PNW, that my whole family can go on fun costal road trips in - it’s fits us and all our crap (and the dog).
2011 STI ?
RS looks better too
No 2014 Hatch STIs in my state for sale. would have to drive over 8 hours round trip to see ones that were thrashed.
I still have my hatchback STI and my RS. Comfort, torque vectoring, less noise is what the RS beats the STI at. I hate boxer rumble because they really makes the rattlebox noisy, the STI drivetrain is simply bulletproof though but I wouldn't call the STI low maintenance, hang around the STI forums long enough and you will find a lot of mods are not actually for performance upgrades but were meant to fix the shortcomings from factory.
In 8 years (I bought new), I had to replace valve cover gasket, all the mounts and bushings because they actually failed. The group N rubber mounts cost me close to 1k USD and these are already extremely noisy (can't imagine those with poly mounts or metal mounts). The worst one of all, a 50 dollars metal joint for the gear shifter that requires the whole transmission to be jacked out of the way to replace. That cause a 1 inch slop side to side at the gear stick when the car is in gear not neutral. Power steering pump is going soon and that's gonna cost around 500 USD for just the parts alone. I don't mod my STI except the suspension but coming from a family of car enthusiasts, the STI actually had the most OEM stuff replaced, much more so than my previous Mazda RX8 of 9 years ownership which worked flawlessly until I sold it to fund the STI.
The RS on the other hand had 4 abs sensors replaced in under 10k miles, now 3 years old.
Was the STI new as well?
The real hilarity here is that a rotary was more maintenance free then an sti
Also. Not sure I’ve ever heard sti and bullet proof in the same sentence. As a big subie guy the ej isn’t known to be the most reliable.. the rest of the drive train? Definitely agree
STi: ancient engine, terrible looks, price, and really wanted a hatchback. I even looked at the older STis gen that came in a wagon trim, but finding even a semi-clean one was impossible.
Those flat 4s made a great reputation of needed headgaskets for so long. I feel the boosted ones are worse then the N/A. Wanted an STI for a long time but EcoBoost and the RS badge sold me. (Wanted an RS product since I was 17 and the states never saw one until 2016)
I test drove them back to back and the STI wasn't in the same league. The lack of power was insanely noticable, the handling wasn't as good and the interior was... "Subaru."
STI interior destroys the RS interior. Other than that though, the RS is superior.
I’ve said that for years that the RS interior is trash but then everybody gets mad at me and says all the money goes to the engine and the all wheel drive system not the interior
Then why is Subaru’s awd system also superior? Hahaha
I would rather have an RS than an STI Bc it’s just more fun as a street car, but denying those other facts is just silly.
Not sure if it's been updated, I far preferred the RS back in 17 when I bought mine.
The last year of the RS is the 2018. Literally the same interior as my moms escape with the same steering wheel as an explorer. The STI interior kills it, sorry not sorry.
I upvoted because I agree and then looked at the username.
Yup, I agree.
Traded my STI in on a RS (current car). Loved the awd in the sti , felt very mechanical and connected to the road. Love the raw power of the RS, and mine sounds like a pig (nx2 , FBO , no cat etc). My RS is faster, even in stock form the RS felt faster. I do miss that notchy transmission of the sti tho.
Do solid shifter cable bushings it's a world of difference
I have the cooler works shifter assembly in the garage going in next spring. I don’t drive my RS in the winter, too many bad drivers around here.
I used the Ronin factory cable bushing set and I didn't feel the need to upgrade anything else, maybe I should've also done the bushing in the shifter itself but it was unnecessary for my needs. the cooler works stuff looks cool tho.
I like hatchbacks.
Hatchback, most unique and style. I love the aggressive look of the RS.
Hatchback. Cheaper insurance.
I feel you. I miss the hatchbacks… and the insurance pricing
After what my dog did to the back seat of my last car, I needed a hatchback.
I’m glad I’m not the only RS owner with a dog, seat mat and lay the seats down is just amazing
My dog is small, so I got a Husky (ha) trunk liner with some towels over it and a [separator](https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/5e09a6ba-8861-45e4-ba28-44ce6844c5ba_1.b7c424fa3ca922ef00fc7f8a585fe618.jpeg).
I have a German Shepherd lol so I feel you, can I ask why the separator tho?
To keep him contained for a lot of reasons.
-Comes in Nitrous Blue
-Sounds better IMO
-Better styling IMO
-Doesn’t come in Nitrous Blue
-No hatchback option
-Markups when shopping in my area
-All of my friends have either a WRX or STI.
How’s reliability? Heard the engine would blow
You’ve probably heard about the head gasket issues on the 2016, early 2017 models. From factory they originally launched with the wrong head gasket which would cause the engine to burn coolant when the gaskets inevitably failed and broke seal. There was a recall from Ford but the damage to the image and reputation of the car was already done. People who took their cars in to have the new HG put on before engine damage occurred (before the gasket failed) were totally fine but those that did not or were unlucky enough to have it fail before the recall was issued got stuck in engine replacement/warranty hell.
Personally, the head gasket on my 2016 was replaced before the original failed and I haven’t had any issues with over 80,000 miles on it, and I drive it hard on the street and on the track. Any RS built after summer 2017 (June or July can’t remember) had the new head gasket fitted from factory and are basically not affected by this issue. If you’re buying before then, make sure someone verifies the new head gasket is fitted before buying! Just ask for proof that’s what I did and it worked great for me!
That hits close to home… Subie’s 2.5L
Never had head gasket gasket issues on my Subaru but that did too a lot of damage to Subaru’s reputation
Depends on what you are trying to do to it. If you don't intend to do many mods and make sure it has the right head gasket you probably will not have any issues. If you are looking at large power mods, because of the open deck design, the stock RS block is limited to around 400WHP. Much more than this and you can possibly blow out a piston sidewall.
I plan on keeping mine forever so once I'm ready for power upgrades I'll get the Pistons bored then sleeved or just bore out a 2.0 block to the 2.3 to eliminate the open deck issue.
Having owned 3x Imprezas I wanted a change and the RS is just the perfect package that met my needs. I do miss my wrx sti type ra Ltd, and the sti’s, but i wanted at least a 2017 plate with a warranty. The standard power output of the Imprezas was a pain point for me as was lacking compared to RS as well. I also didn’t really like 2017+ Impreza styling as much as I liked the classic, Hawkeye or hatches. In fact, the only Imprezas that I really wanted were specials, like later versions of the type ra, type ra-r, or an S series, s20/6/8/9, the R205, cosworth 400 or even a Wr1, but they are all either high mileage or hard to come by in good condition these days, so the Ford was the perfect choice - and with the benefit of a manufacturer warranty! I would love to own another Impreza, but really glad I went with the RS, such a capable and fun car. 👌👍
I test drove a WRX and a STi before going with the RS. I liked the WRX, but it didn't have enough features. (No push button start.) I stalled 3 times in the STi. Now I'm no Colin McCrae, but I'd like to think I'm at least proficient at driving manual.
Still had the EJ25 at the time. Antiquated and underpowered platform, and considerably harsher and less refined than the RS. Sedan versus hatchback I prefer hatchback. The only thing the STI had going for it was the center diff controls; the RS embarrasses the STI in every other category.
I have a Sub. It’s pretty much what you are willing to live with. Pros and cons. Goes for any car?
I love it to death yet I can find flaws.
I owned 3 of them before and they were becoming stale. I knew them inside and out and in terms of getting better or upgrading to a newer model anything past 2014 was a big pass for me. No wide body and same engine and I could not find a clean hatch, always a sedan :(
Got the RS for the hatchback and because it was a fun switch, never owned anything “American” (I know this car is mainly European based) but it had way better features that the STi still didn’t have, like a heated steering wheel or idk CarPlay. I’m talking 2014 and lower. I don’t like the new STi corollas.
Love the RS in terms of performance and handling. After a few minor mods it continues to be a fun daily driver and I might keep it for a while. I miss the old Subaru rumble but that’s about it.
Can you compare the long term reliability after owning both of them?
I’m very good at making sure my cars are taken care of with regular oil changes and maintenance. I don’t think the EJ has ever been reliable to be honest but most of the folk nowadays want to push it to its limit and that is when problems begin to occur. If you treat it with respect it will do the same.
For the RS it has been super reliable besides the head gasket recall it had. After that, no problems engine related thus far.
However, I have not hit the 100K mark just yet but I have seen people with more miles on the forums who treat it nicely and continue to get great reliability from it.
Are you on the market for one? If so, decide what you want from each car and make your decision. Ultimately it boils down to what YOU want and what you see yourself enjoying the most.
I had a Subaru car (outback) in the past and was not a fan! (Thing got stuck in the snow several times (in only a foot of snow)) The so-called all wheel traction control does not work as stated and the Subaru dealer could not answer my questions as to why...
Example: Got the car stuck in a small snow bank (front end driver's side about 1.5 feet in) even tho the car should have easily been freed out of the snow bank my car would only use 2 wheels and not the other 2 to get me out. The car was not moving, yet the system was not smart enough to figure it out and switch tires to attempt to get my car out of the snowbank..
As this issue happened several times, I gave up and bought something else instead!
I did not buy an RS due to this, but my past issues with Subaru made me look elsewhere when I was looking for a all wheel drive hot hatch!
My dad loves Subarus and has had several of them over the years.
Must have gotten a lemon.
Hey stupid question but did you use the same tires on all wheels? Multithreading can damage the system and I’ve seen some people multithreading.
Yes, all wheels had the same tires bought from the dealer. After reporting the issue, I had the vehicle inspected to verify that there was nothing wrong with it.. they could not find anything wrong with it and said that what happened was normal operating procedure.
That’s really weird. Never heard of this. Wow!
They aren’t fake?
They're all fake these days. An OEM could do 0 pops ever at any power level if they wanted to.
Surprised no one has said it yet. Subaru is a lesbian car.
That’s cool. If gay people want to rock em, power to them
Preference of manufacturer encompasses everything about the quality of the car over the STI, and the RS has I would say significantly more readily available modification support at a higher level.
Reading all these comments makes me feel like we are all one collective hive mind. These where all the exact some ideas I had. Spooki
Torque curve is a lot better, drift mode, hatchback, and doesn’t attract as much attention (I had a black RS)
1) hatchback 2) that god damn EJ hunk of junk. I was a WRX owner and that motor sucks in the real world if you’re not out racing.
Dam bro. You must have driven it hardddd
The 2.5? Stage 2 or better and it does not suck at all.
I intensely dislike Subarus. They just sound terrible to me, they seem to be built like legos and they are like belly buttons around here.
Never even looked at them. I was going to buy an ND Miata, but then my first child was on the way and we’ll that meant more than just two seats!
As a long time Turbo-Dodge fan, the RS is the closest thing I’ve found to those cars of my youth. Except it just works, is much faster and much more comfortable.
The RS is superior why see how long it takes you to change out your spark plugs on each car
Takes me 15~20mins on my FB20
Right side: pull out the battery.
Left side: pull out the intake.
It’s not as hard as people make it to be or maybe that’s a thing for the STI
More power, and came in a hatchback. I just wish the Focus RS was a continual model like the STI.