Number of Afghan refugees headed to 46 states
By - Lyndon-Gains-Johnson
Yeah, what’s up with that? Chicago alone could handle a huge amount of immigrants. Hell, immigration is one of the things Chicago does best.
“I’ve been rooting for a hopeless cause for 20 years, no chance I’m going to start my new life as a Bears fan.”
Spit out my fucking drink.
We still have to go back to the mid 80s for our copium every year.
Did they hear about Lincoln Towing, too?
"I'm sorry, it's just too dangerous and violent for us"
St Louis is taking most of the immigrants and is generally very pro-immigration (partly because it's a very liberal city, partly because it has a long history of having large immigrant populations, and partly because the city has never recovered in population and has a bunch of room).
Hell yean we love our immigrants here. The Bosnians are a great presence and we can't wait to welcome the Afghan refugees.
St. Louis actually had a lot of empty houses in disrepair because of the population dip. It needs more people.
They are sending migrants from the southern border to Illinois primarily Chicago.
US Official: Welcome to the US, your refugee status has been approved. We’ll be seeing you to Chic-
Refugee: Give me a plane ticket to Kabul please.
Why are these maps never per capita? IL is twice the size of MO. That fucking matters when making comparisons on a heat map.
It looks like it goes, "Have a large military base? Here are your former terps."
Missouri has Fort Leonard Wood, Fort Leavenworth, and Whiteman AFB. The only *large* base Illinois has is Great Lakes.
I mean... The blackhawks haven't been as relevant as the Blues since 2016.
How's their football and basketball looking?
Those sports mean nothing.
Illinois? Try Minnesota.
Minnesota's way better per capita. Half the population and 2/3rds of the refugees.
Edit: never mind, I mixed up the refugee numbers of Illinois and Wisconsin. Yeah, Minnesota's doing a pretty shit job here.
> Maybe one of the coldest states presents issues for people from an extremely warm climate?
That seems like it would make sense, especially considering Texas taking in the most in raw numbers and Oklahoma the most per capita.
It's not true for previous immigration waves though. Somalia is a very warm country, yet Minnesota and Norway (both pretty cold places) have some of the largest Somali communities in their respective continents.
And the Hmong came from tropical regions as well.
Yup, there's a big Hmong population here in cold ass Detroit.
>people from an extremely warm climate
Afghanistan gets cold as shit. Kabul doesn't get quite as cold as Chicago in the winter, but it still gets cold (about the same temperature profile as St. Louis, MO), and places at higher elevations get every bit as cold or colder than Chicago or even Minnesota.
You have to remember the entire country is basically mountains.
Afghanistan gets cold winters. Maybe not Minnesota cold, but it regularly snows in Kabul.
Exactly this, Minnesota has something like 90,000 Somalis living here.
Yeah like a upsettingly bad job.
Why us? It's not like we aren't welcoming and as a per capita are near the top. We have a history of being the second relocation state.
Gotta keep their falling population up (err… down)!
This isn't a state program, this is a federal and NGO resettlement process.
NY state outdone by MO, jesus. NYC alone should be taking more than most states.
I thought this about PA, which houses Philadelphia and Pittsburgh.
Putting refugees in one of the highest cost of living areas in the country seems like a terrible idea.
Would refugees not also benefit from the agglomerative effects of dense, urban, HCOL areas? More people in more cities is a good thing.
I'd much rather move my family from Kabul to Brooklyn than from Kabul to rural Arkansas.
Vietnamese refugees have done exceptionally well in rural Texas after being relocated all over the state. The main concentration is still in Houston, but that’s a much lower cost of living than NYC. Not saying Urban is bad at all but LA, Bay Area and NYC seem like bad ideas overall.
That's what i thought too. Cost of living maybe, idk seems like a reach. Politically you'd think the blue states would take more given the rhetoric
Yo, Missouri is growing more and more based.
Except Hawley ಠ_ಠ
Fuck Josh Hawley.
Looks like Oklahoma of all places is taking the most per capita.
Oklahoma - .00045 per capita
Arizona - .00022 per capita
Washington - .00022 per capita
Maryland - .00021 per capita
Missouri - .00019 per capita
Texas - .00015 per capita
Virginia - .00014 per capita
Michigan - .00013 per capita
California - .00013 per capita
North Carolina - .00011 per capita
Georgia - .0001 per capita
New York - .00005 per capita
Ranked in descending order, refugee per capita.
It's shameful that California isn't getting the most per capita. CA has a huge Afghan community. It would be an ideal place to settle many of the refugees if not for this stupid housing crisis.
Where would they live though? I would feel bad sending them somewhere with housing so unaffordable.
New York being so low really confirms a lot of conservative tropes to be honest.
For everyone one person New York took, Oklahoma took 9.
I apologize to conservative commenters.
It's where tons of Vietnamese refugees settled in the 70s too. Asian District of OKC is Little Saigon, and there are multiple Vietnamese-language newspapers. I imagine there will be a Little Kabul adjacent now.
"Oklahoma! Like Afghanistan, but flat!"
"And also nothing like Afghanistan! But you're trying to get away from Afghanistan and this place checks that box"
It's probably not that representing of anything but I knew an Iranian in Oklahoma that would rave about how Oklahoma was the most Iran like place he had ever been to outside of Iran. Not sure if he knew most Oklahomans would take that as an insult
Did he say why that was?
It’s run by a conservative religious government?
Nothing religious people love more than secular governments staffed with people of a completely different religion.
Haha. He said the people were polite and reminded him of Iranian people. So I think they just made him feel welcome.
The new state motto…
*”Oklahoma: it’s away from Afghanistan.”*
>And also nothing like Afghanistan!
I don't know about that, they have some serious cultural similarities.
They are both populated by gun-loving rightwing religious fundamentalists, after all.
I said they feel right at home in the southwest. Hot, dry, has mountains.
I have to think that there are some local organizations and churches that are lining up living spaces and sponsor families.
History of the govt sticking inconvenient brown people there (native Americans).
Give them to us in North VA. We could take 10k easy and people wouldn't even notice.
The top states initially will always be where the military bases are then there will be a second diaspora.
Minnesota has the largest Hmong population because people re-relocated. A mountainous tropical people choose Minneapolis as their new base. Why?
Also read up on Tippi Hedren (from Minnesota) and her influence on the nail industry.
I'm personally offended Minnesota didn't accept more. We've got the largest Somali (Muslim) population in the world outside of Mogadishu itself! I graduated in the same class as 100 girls in hijab and 20 guys named Muhammed! We want a Sambusa truck on every corner goddmnit!
Not accepted or not yet received? I would imagine there are only a few places that are set up to process large amounts of refugees.
>We've got the largest Somali (Muslim) population in the world outside of Mogadishu itself
Source? I googled it and it seems London has Minnesota beat
I'm personally offended because part of the Minnesota Army National Guard helped get these people out of Afghanistan safely.
We played soccer with the kids while they were waiting for flights out of the country.
275 is a pitiful amount.
860 for Illinois is nothing. It’s so nothing that I’m legitimately mad about it.
And here I was being mad about Washington's
Are you telling me those “In this house we believe…” signs lied to me?
Or we don’t have military bases. But confirmation bias on with your bad self….
They don’t have time to accept refugees, they are focusing all their energy on closing independent bookstores for wrongthink
[apparently I’m terminally online and nobody knows about this](https://youtu.be/CegccR1dbUc)
Did something happen that I missed?
!remindme 5 hours
Honestly, it's probably better for the Afghans.
It's cause nobody understands Illinois-politik. All you need to do is give a relatively minor federal construction contract to some alderman's brother in law and Illinois would be 50x that number.
Gotta pump those up. Those are rookie numbers.
1.3k coming to MD. We've got room for more than that.
My state has 865. There's fewer people than that in my neighborhood
Lol, that’s probably the size of my square block.
Jersey can take more than 535. Come on we can't be out done by Pennsylvania *shudders*
Same here in PA. Hell, 995 is too low even just for Philly. We need more so we can get an Afghani food truck on every corner!
Also in PA and I’m ashamed the number is under 1k. Let’s hope Wolf or Shapiro does something.
Me 3. I wonder why Philly and Pittsburgh hasn’t taken more.
Need Afghan taco trucks on every corner!
Came here to say Idaho’s number is sick considering the stance on weed here.
Very true, third highest by percentage before orange man made cuts
That’s actually not a lot - would be interested in seeing a per capita analysis of this though.
Maybe I’m an idiot, or my phone is displaying this article wrong, but there is no per capita in this as far as I can tell.
This is actually one case where per capita doesn't make a lot of sense. They're being sent to a geographic place. Individuals aren't being, like, made 1% Afghanistani.
I think it still makes sense. It's not like you throw refugees into an empty parcel of land and tell them to live there. You need housing and infrastructure, and some tax income to help refugees, and that all scales with population.
Per capita definitely makes sense. You could also look at it by land area but states with more people generally have more infrastructure and therefore more capacity to take people in
[Rep Rosendale upset over Montana's 75](https://twitter.com/RepRosendale/status/1438554680855076864)
*before clicking the link*: maybe he's upset in the good way
Jesus Christ those numbers are tiny
These are the numbers so far. People are still being processed.
What are these, numbers for ants?
Only so many people were able to get out at all, and not all of them are coming to America
Nice job Nebraska, punching way above our weight. Almost all of them undoubtedly headed for Omaha and Lincoln, our two blue dots. We have great refugee services in Omaha, people here have the right attitude.
If anybody has a spare couple of bucks, [The Furniture Project](https://www.thefurnitureproject.org/) is a great non-profit in Omaha that regularly works with new refugees to get them basics like a kitchen table and a bed waiting for them when they get here, stuff we all take for granted.
Its kinda shitty to be like... we'll take 10. Its such a small number they'll be all alone. :(
please just send those poor 20 dudes in alabama and LA to me in cali.
Gotta pump those numbers up
wtf texas based?
Is this because they're living on military bases in Texas? Or are they actually going to be settled there?
Why does everyone think Texas is just Marlboro Man country. FFS I live in southern New Zealand and I know its one of the most diverse states.
Because their state level politics is dogshit. The abortion thing, Ted Cruz, Abbott. It's all bad.
Um, have you been watching the news? The parts of Texas that is bound by Texas’ law, is, all of Texas. IOW, All of Texas is a shit show.
You clearly don’t know Texas. Yes, our state government is deplorable. But literally every major city—Austin, Dallas, El Paso, Houston, San Antonio—is solid blue.
Houston is literally the most diverse city in the country. There’s an entire section of town where the street signs are in both English and Chinese—simply because of the ratio of native speakers of each language. The speed limit signs in the Medical Center (the largest centralized medical care and research center in the country) are in both MPH and KPH due to the number of international patients seeking treatment.
Houston also has a massive Vietnamese community because many came there after fleeing the country after the war.
The current elected leader of the county in which Houston is located is a 30 year old, Colombian immigrant, Stanford graduate Latina.
I know I’m getting a little heated. Yes, to repeat, our state government is awful. But a _lot_ of Texans are awesome, welcoming, internationally-originated folks.
I literally live in Austin, mucho texto
Austin, Dallas, and Houston have relatively large existing Afghan populations.
Blue Texas when?
Is it a given our new Afghan neighbors will vote Dem?
Also have to factor in how many will actually become citizens anytime soon.
And how many are children, also.
Even better. Young people will always be better. They can start off with more education and better situation than the older generations got. In a couple decades we have a decently off Afgan population here
Absolutely not. Which, really, is in a way a good thing.
Muslims haven't voted Republican since the 2nd Bush's first election. We learned our lesson.
Seeing the story of doverism of Democrat activists...LOL NO.
As a St. Louisan, MORE! MORE!
Also, fuck you Chicago.
Lmao Wyoming and West Virginia 💀💀
100 Afghans living in alaska. Id watch that show.
This is depressingly low. Already you see Muslim countries like Iran and Pakistan (which are admittedly right next to Afghanistan) saying that the U.S. is hypocritical because we waged this war for 20 years and can't be bothered to take in refugees. They'd be right.
NY should be taking more. Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse, Albany, all of them would be great candidates for immigration based revitalization - so long as there’s proper funding.
LETS GOOOO CALIFORNIA WITH THE MOST REFUGEES! AFGHAN TACO TRUCKS FOR ALL!
I’m actually sad TX is probably outdoing us by per capita numbers. We can and should take much more.
5400 is barely enough for them to make an Afghan food enclave and I bet their food is so good
10 to MS and AL? Looks like even Afghans don't want to live in shit hole states.
I mean, can you imagine what it is like to escape persecution from the Taliban just to get even worse from the local "Christians" there
States that have <1k but have literal empty acres of land wtf
Well, I’m not sure arable land is a requirement since they’re refugees.. not turnips.
I say let the entire population of Afghanistan populate Wyoming. Let them build the state into being worth having.
I'd be totally for it- you'd just have to pass a pretty extensive spending bill to accommodate the new population and prevent it from turning into a gang-run slum
So hear me out, we froze the money of the Afgan government when the Taliban took over. Something like 10 billion or so. Pretty decent amount of investment to start em off
Alot of land in those empty great plains states like Wyoming and South Dakota is tied up in National parks, other government owned land, grazing land, agricultural land, and Indian reservations.
Doesn't change the fact that as a state it is near pointless. It literally is this or merge the state into another. The state has lower population that one of our territories, by nearly 6 times.
Fuck that. Spreading out is bad it leads to more pollution and worse economic effects. Settle them in the cities
I love how you get downvoted for saying that we shouldn not thrown refugees into the wilderness.
"We should send them to places with much smaller economies and fewer opportunities"
"Rah rah rah!"
this place sometimes
Yeah I'm pretty sure the refugees would like to be sent to northeast Wyoming... pretty much nothing out there at all
That's the sad part, there should be more stuff out there
Should there be?
There's still plenty of space in Washington, Texas, Indiana, etc.
I disagree. I'd rather have larger cities with wide open land in between.
No there shouldn't. Urban sprawl Is a cancer on the envrioemtn. So is ruralism encourages car use and houses
The Hydrophobic Republic of Wyoming, West Virginia, South Dakota, and Hawaii seceded 😒
BRB getting them back but making them all be one state except for hawaii
I find the lack of refugees in West Virginia to be quite emblematic of the state who's leftmost elected official is Joe Manchin
How are these determined? Why can some states opt out while some accept 10 for some reason? Ten in Alabama seems like a chance to say they'll do it but half-ass it.
Did the calculations. The Afghan refugees heading to California are .013% of the current California population. For Texas, it’s .016%. I don’t know why I care. I just thought it was interesting.
Everyone saying these numbers are too low needs to do the bare minimum of research.
This is just the first wave, who are being processed outside of the normal immigration system and basically fast-tracked into the US.
There will be plenty more immigrants later.
Seriously what’s up with Oklahoma getting such a disproportionate number? What’s the reasoning behind that?
Those 10 Afghans in Mississippi though
Absolutely amazing. Wish we would welcome more.
How are refugees relocated when they arrive to America?
Gotta pump those numbers
I’m surprised so many are moving to California, considering the Cost of Living. Are these primarily wealthy Afghans?
It's probably because there are already large Afghan communities in Fremont and Sacramento. If I recall correctly, refugees were strongly advised (maybe forbidden?) from moving to California unless they already had close family there.
My state (MN) should be ashamed to be behind Missouri and Oklahoma.
Who are the 10 unlucky bastards going to AL or MS?
Hoping someone can answer this for me: Who decides which refugees go to which state and how many refugees each state gets?
Ashamed Alabama has 10. Then I remember, who would want to move to Alabama
Oklahoma is taking more than NY?
Imagine evacuating the only home you ever knew, coming to America to start a new life in a country that won’t condemn you for your religion.
And then you get sent Mississippi.
I'd like to believe that West Virginia was a mutual decision from both parties, even if a poor, culturally isolated state with a strong honor culture (and stronger drugs) could've been a natural fit.
I hope those “K” is “Thousand million” because if not I am sad.
Lol AL and MS wtf.
I wouldn’t want to have Joe Manchin be my senator either, I get it
Do the refugees pick where they want to go or does the government decide for them? Cause if the refugees choose, some of these choices are… well to each their own.
Can you imagine being told you're going to Alaska?
I wish someone would actually answer the question because I'm curious too
I really hope you're joking.
These people are escaping literally 20 years of war, and a place where women are basically treated worse than dogs, gays and non-muslims have zero rights and have the death penalty... You can take the worst place in America and it will still look like heaven next to Afghanistan.
Plus, you're missing the point of being a refugee. You're not supposed to be able to go around the world looking for the place you like the best and pick it. These people's main objective is to escape Afghanistan and go to a safe place, it doesn't have to be pretty or have plenty of economic opportunities. They are not economic migrants.
I’m fully aware that someone escaping Afghanistan is likely to be happy to go anywhere in the US. Not sure what that has to do with wondering 1) whether they have a say in where they go and 2) if they do, why some would want to go to a place with relatively few Afghans living there, undesirable climate, perhaps fewer job opportunities.
Just because any place is better than where they’re coming from doesn’t mean it’s absurd to wonder why North Dakota.
I strongly doubt the majority of the refugees know where or what North Dakota is. Why would they?
Is Texas really the best place for these people?
Fuck yeah it is, we'll take them. Those that were given asylum were the ones that helped keep our service members safe. If anyone fucks with them, we got a bunch of Veterans that'll step up to protect them.
But Texas isn't exactly the most tolerant place.
I'm not sure what factors go into deciding where people are settled. Cost of living and job availability are fist that come to mind.
Are the refugees currently still on military bases? Could it be proximity to where they already are?
Compared to the Taliban yes. I’m sure your average Afghan citizen is pretty socially conservative based on the first generation Islamic immigrants I personally know. Also Texas has plenty of fairly progressive cities.
Leaving one theocracy ran by nutjobs for another
Hot take: the Taliban is significantly more reactionary than Texas Republicans.
Greg Abbott is literally Mullah Omar.