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st4n13l

The image from China is an image from an [NPR piece](https://www.npr.org/2012/01/24/145521090/for-chinas-left-behind-kids-a-free-lunch) describing a chairty that was setup by a journalist to feed kids in poverty because they weren't receiving meals. This is not the standard lol In the US children in poverty qualify for free or reduced price lunch. In fact, many communities will now provide these meals to all students if a certain percentage of kids at the school qualify. Edit: for context and to add link to NPR article


Alex_2259

If someone thinks this is a standard school lunch in the poverty stricken Rural China, they're fools. Only the T1 cities in China do really well, there is still massive poverty their government covers up in the rural regions that's generally unlike anything the United States has.


Critical-Edge4093

Yea, this post is definitely some Chinese fanboi propaganda, trying to manipulate the story to frame China in a good light. Pretty hard to frame concentration camps in a good light, trust us, the United States already tried back in WW2.


fudgemeister

Source? Edit: I see your edit now includes source. Well done and thank you!


Commercial_Table_937

If you're asking for a source with poor children being provided food for free. I got free lunch and every Friday I brought home a grocery bag with enough food for me to eat 3 meals on the weekends. It's the National School Lunch program it provides almost 60% of all American students with free lunch.


fudgemeister

👍 the link wasn't there at first so I asked, user provided. Solid work there and best way to counter the BS from Xinnie the Pooh's friends.


Commercial_Table_937

The amount of ccp trolls on reddit are getting a bit out of hand. One day I hope I'll see a free China


st4n13l

They commented in the minute between me initially posting and editing to add the source. I'm always a fan of requesting sources haha


st4n13l

No worries. As soon as I posted I realized I had forgotten to add the link so I figured I'd add some context around FRPL in the US too haha


Motocamperman

Yeah that US meal might have been real one day at one place but that isn't representative. There has been a lot of reform to what the menu should consist of in the last decade, Michelle Obama among others was focused on this. My wife runs the kitchen for a special needs school but all of the guidelines about the food are the same as every other school in the district. We have a very high percentage of free lunch students in our area, but we don't quite qualify for everyone getting free lunch. The craziest part is that it's up to the kitchen manager who only makes $16 an hour to collect on unpaid school debt, or lose raises and promotions because of bad budget performance. There are a million things wrong with school lunch programs in the US, but the food itself isn't the worst part of it at all.


dynamicllc

This was posted in r/antiwork as well by OP.. here is the source for the US picture https://www.salon.com/2013/11/27/school_lunches_exposed_the_good_the_bad_and_the_inedible/


cakebats

Is that an apple inside of an apple?


laublau

Asking the real questions


AndyJobandy

Pre sliced and might just not be be the “matching” piece


Iwantmypasswordback

That makes so much sense. It does look like one apple birthing another tho lol


SomeOtherGuySits

I love me a freedom dog and a liberty apple.


unstable-

i remember getting chunky coagulated milk and never trusting school milk again. in their defense, it wasn’t past best by date.


Caller_20

Wow that’s so sad. In China the milk is always fresh


Tazziman

So are the injustices to humanity , over there.


ltRobinCrusoe

*always* That's why China is the prime importer of milk powder?


Caller_20

Because China has the largest population? It is also the largest consumer of fresh high quality foods while america eats disgusting factory made chemicals


Critical-Edge4093

Its also the largest producer of crimes against humanity on a daily basis, your point?


X_Equestris

America and China are countries that are shitty to their people. China playing catch up on mass shootings in schools though.


Preface

They just have mass stabbings instead, but they go unreported. As terrible as both are, it somehow seems worse when it's adults breaking into schools to stab children compared to a student from the school shooting other students.


X_Equestris

How do you know about them?


Critical-Edge4093

This is true.


X_Equestris

Even America's genocide is lacking, they cant claim ALL the native deaths. China make them look real amateurs here. Voter suppression? What's a vote?


Critical-Edge4093

Exactly, like I'm not saying America's number one. Oh no, we have our issues, but compared to china's issues, makes ours look like high-school drama club issues.


X_Equestris

The majority of counties are generally not very nice.


Motocamperman

They're highly exaggerated.


X_Equestris

The shootings are?


Motocamperman

Yes. It's a statistical anomale. If we didn't protect gun free zones with absolutely nothing we probably wouldn't have a problem at all. End unsecured gun free zones!


X_Equestris

So, guns in the gun free zones? That would mean less shootings?


Russian-8ias

At least you can change things for the better in the US


X_Equestris

Well, you can try.


Russian-8ias

No, you can and will. Just take a glance back in history and see how far we’ve come. Then tell me how China is even comparable to that.


AndyJobandy

School shootings are a statistical anomaly. Let’s talk about the massive mental health crisis and how most mass shooters are of a minority group. Look at Chicago with some of the strictest firearm laws having the biggest problem with firearms being used in homicide/theft. And if you’re answer is “JuSt BaN tHeM” then you clearly live under a rock because we all know how banning stuff works (see prohibition, war on drugs etc)


Caller_20

Bush talking points


Critical-Edge4093

Uh no, these are just facts, look at what the Chinese government is doing to the Tibetan people, or the people of Hong Kong, or how about Taiwan? How about we talk about their use of violence against their neighbors like India? How about we talk about the fact that they have social scores that dictate their everyday lives. From being able to ride a train/plane, to being able to go to a hospital, all can be taken from you if you don't fall in line. China also has no issues pumping CFC's into the atmosphere that causes damage to our already damaged ozone. They are the bad guys of the world right now.


13143

You didn't even mention the xinjiang concentration camps, which is probably the most egregious violation of human rights in China at the moment.


Critical-Edge4093

I apologize, I didn't even know about this atrocity, thats fucked up.


Ancient-Tadpole8032

Isn’t China the place where they got caught adding chemicals to baby formula???


Radiant-Spren

So is the genocide.


unstable-

our milk is basically %.009 milk and the rest is water. back in the early 2000’s the food used to actually be good. it really went to shit after michelle obama tried to feed us “healthy” options.


Independent_Scheme93

The school lunches were garbage even before then. She actually encouraged introducing fresh veggies and removed soda machines from campuses, etc. I was in school 20 years ago and even then it was processed foods that were just rewarmed and served. We only had fresh veggies on the salad bar. Everything else was out of a can or a frozen box. School lunches in the majority of our public schools are big business for the companies that make them for our school children and a lot of times for our prison systems, too. This didn't suddenly happen 12 years ago. This thread is mildly infuriating. An OP that is seemingly here to convince one country is better than another based solely on school lunches of all things, while respondents post inaccurate info. The US is known for our tasty but unhealthy junk food. No one is surprised by this in a country plagued by obesity and all the related health problems (diabetes, heart disease, etc) that come with it. This started decades ago, during the jazzercise/Jane Fonda exercise days. Unhealthy fats were removed from food, everyone realized food didn't taste good anymore, so sugar began being dumped into everything to bring back flavor. The sugar eventually took the form of corn syrup because it was cheap and readily available. This has affected all processed foods in America, including our kid's lunches...well before Obama or even Bush. If this was just was just a comparison of school lunches it would be an interesting thread, but it is obviously a thread for baiting based on the replies seen here. So stupid.


unstable-

well honestly, food was actually edible before. i genuinely had meals that i could look forward to eating. not having appetizing meals to eat really contributed to my anorexia in middle school & high school. it became a norm for people to get fast food or just eat chips and snacks during lunch because everything was inedible.


Independent_Scheme93

You are saying school lunches caused anorexia?!? So anorexic people just need more appetizing meals to eat? That's the fix? There is a big difference in skipping a meal that you don't like and anorexia. Anorexia is a mental disease that causes one to obsess about thier weight and what they eat. It is not turned on and off based on how good the food looks. An anorexic person can't force themselves to eat even when they want to, even when they know that it is unhealthy and slowly killing them. I assume that you received psychiatric treatment for anorexia, right? Your therapist told you it was because of unappealing school lunches? Not some perceived body image, trauma or anything more substantial? This is so insensitive and ignorant. A mod needs to delete this thread because we are going quickly from mildly infuriating to full on angry with this stupid stuff.


unstable-

the key word there was “contributed” but that really flew over your head, huh? yes, the shitty fucking school food CONTRIBUTED to MY anorexia. or can your brilliant mind not comprehend how having unappetizing meals makes it easy for someone struggling with an eating disorder to not eat?


Independent_Scheme93

Don't get on here and say insensitive stuff like that. It doesn't matter how appealing or unappealing a meal is...an anorexic person is disgusted either way. I guess it flew over YOUR head that anorexia is not about the food at all. Or do you disagree with that? I read the "contributed". Semantics doesn't change this. The fact you mentioned it said it played a significant enough role...otherwise why mention it? Anorexics use unappealing food as an excuse but it doesn't matter what you put in front of them there is always an excuse. As someone who said that they have been through this you should know and it is irresponsible to suggest to anyone that is going through it now that the food is where the problem lies, even in part. Medical treatment is needed to cope with that disease, not better foods. Quality food is not the underlying problem.


unstable-

i stand by what i said. a lot of things contributed to my anorexia. a lot of hard shit that i had to deal with by myself, at a young age. and trust me, i understand what you’re trying to say, but you’re not trying to understand me. i wasn’t about the food, but the food didn’t fucking help. that’s literally all i’m trying to say. i don’t care that you think my comment is insensitive. the dog shit they serve at schools these days is insensitive. and in the end of the day, that is what my comment was about! SHIT SCHOOL FUCKING FOOD.


Independent_Scheme93

I hear you and I understand exactly what you are saying. No one is excited about bad food, healthy or sick.


Caller_20

Wow america really is a third world country


ltRobinCrusoe

And China the new third Reich...


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Critical-Edge4093

Thats a very bad fucking thing, not something to be happy about.


Djanghost

This is a troll. 85% of Chinese people are lactose intolerant, and would never serve milk. Has nobody eaten Chinese food before? There's no dairy.


DongleJockey

Lmao your country has an endemic problem with counterfeit milk and the rich people in your country only buy imported milk powder to feed their own children, but keep making shit up


nerir254_

It's including the regular milk too that's why whenever I go to school early i only drink 1 milk per day never more than 2 milks because it made my stomach hurt or use the bathroom. Only during lunch is the when I drink milk


DreamOfDays

“You have received +5 social credit score for this post. Current social credit score: -880 (Due to 3rd cousin spilling coffee on minister’s shoe)”


maxxpowerz

No kidding. This guy probably wipes the dictators ass.


ltRobinCrusoe

Poor Chinese didn't even get a drink


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Poor Chinese, got fresh ass food instead of whatever fuckery the Americans got.


Ancient-Tadpole8032

From a charity. Not from the PRC.


Caller_20

They do, usually organic milk


Djanghost

Doubtful Edit: I'm saying doubtful because I'm pretty sure the concentrated number of lactose intolerant individuals is highest in Asia, with China specifically sitting around 85% of lactose intolerant people. Why would that be their daily drink when it would make 85% of people sick?


dnldg

Too much american propaganda I see.


Critical-Edge4093

Your social credit has gone up, 100 more score and you can go flying on airlines.


dnldg

You will be arrested and will kill yourself upon entry into China for mocking the state. Please take care of yourself.


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Is that supposed to be a good thing about China?


dnldg

No, I am insulting their dictatorship… come on… Ps. At least in China they kill people quite obviously. In the US you never know. Point is, both are fucked.


Critical-Edge4093

Oh sorry, yea there's no doubt, both countries are fucked, but China sucks ass XD I'm sorry I was tone deaf and didn't catch the sarcasm man.


dnldg

Gotcha. Happens to me sometimes haha.


Critical-Edge4093

Yea, I doubt they'd let a Jap set foot in their country again since last time we were their, we stole half the fucking country.


dnldg

It was a joke. I like how people assume that I like china because I made a comment on US propaganda. Both are fucked… Have nothing to do with china, just a european…


Critical-Edge4093

Yea I picked up on that, sorry man.


Motocamperman

I'll never visit China unless an angel appears and tells me I have to go. I'm too old to be sent there to fight in a war against them.


dnldg

I said to many bad things on the internet about China to go there. A serious ‘suicide’ risk if I go on a trip there.


Djanghost

Maybe, because I'm pretty sure the concentrated number of lactose intolerant individuals is highest in Asia, sitting around 85%. Why would that be their daily drink when it would make 85% of people sick?


dnldg

Have you heard of lactose free milk? We have fresh lactose free milk here in Cyprus. Why can’t china have that?


Djanghost

China can have that, however it would not be "organic milk" like OP said.


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Djanghost

Lol no. > They do, usually organic milk


dnldg

Hahaha, came from a higher thread where he said fresh. Yeah, I agree with you now.


Russian-8ias

They usually get nothing, that includes their education too


IndividualQuestion45

I’ll take living in America over China even with the bad lunches


Radiant-Spren

But why should I believe my own eyes and ears and a lifetime of experiences over memes?


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SodFarmer1776

Fucking Chinese propaganda, #free Hong Kong #Tiananmen Square


fudgemeister

You must not be Uyghur


BKStephens

Or Native American. Or Black.


Motocamperman

They would not fare well in China though. Far worse.


Alex_2259

I have two colleagues who lived there, they prefer the US; one of them lived in Hong Kong, and they both go back often to visit family. It's very much a totalitarian country and you are generally better off in the United States. Precisely, what makes China better?


Critical-Edge4093

Oh yea, I like the concentration camps and pumping of CFC's into the atmosphere. Fucking idiot, China is a shit stain on modern history, america isn't better, but China is definitely not better then America. How about China stops slaughtering Tibetans, and the citizens of Hong Kong, and Taiwan. You can keep thinking that China is all cool and nice, but its a steaming pile of dog shit, just like North Korea.


MtValley

Yeah I'm going to go out on a limb and say neither are really representative of the typical school lunch. I mean if you've been to both the U.S. and China it's pretty obvious which kids eat more, have more lean muscle mass, grow taller. But sure Reddit said all U.S. kids eat a garbage ham sandwich with a bread roll and a small carton of milk, while Chinese kids eat 5 diverse dishes every day. Who upvotes this garbage lol (I'm Canadian BTW, and we don't even have free school lunches here)


DShitposter69420

Source? This reeks of Chinese propaganda.


Josh-Medl

Get your 3 day old troll account the fuck out of here


The-Great-Cornhollio

People that think that shitposts like this are representative of the entire situation make me laugh. Logical Fallacies galore. Amuse me monkey!


Rude-Flounder-2825

Source


flip_phone_phil

Yes, thank you! A source guy. We need that SOURCE!!! (I’m not being sarcastic either…where’d this bullshit come from)


wormholeweapons

And again I have to point out we had a First Lady who spent 8 years trying to change this bullshit from being served and EVERY GOD DAMN MEMBER OF THE GOP screamed bloody murder saying “damn socialists are trying to take our kids freedums and make them eat broccoli”. It is stupid that school lunches have to be a political issue. But it is. And it is a single party issue.


Negative_Exchange613

That hotdog looks raw shit nasty


canray2042

It’s deli meat


Caller_20

America is a 3rd world country


AshkanKiafard

try living in a 3rd world country Source: I'm Iranian Edit: typo


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AshkanKiafard

I'm not siding with USA at all but at least there is more freedom there.


Djanghost

It's ranked 27th in freedom


AshkanKiafard

Oh ok, I didn't knew about that. But is there a 3rd World country, that has more freedom in this ranking?


Critical-Edge4093

No.


Djanghost

Iunno https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_World_Liberty_Index


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Critical-Edge4093

It is, compared to China it is, but its not the best either. I think Canada is pretty good in most places, and Europe would be way better the america.


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At least we have human rights


Caller_20

LOL


MoonSugar69

Oh shit boys, we got an edge lord


SodFarmer1776

Maybe it’s a trade off, the us has bad lunches and China has good lunches but harvests organs and persecutes religions and dumps the most plastic in the ocean and annexes other autonomous areas


Space_RT

stfu tankie.


YourMomThinksImFunny

Poor Chinese, they don't have Tru Moo chocolate milk there.


BlazingShadow007

Reducing obesity


LucidSpaceLizard

WeRe nUmBeR OnE! 🇺🇸🇺🇸


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Critical-Edge4093

Yea, while I don't agree with OP, this guy sounds ignorant as all get out as to why China sucks. He was right in like 2 talking points, you can criticize the government without disappearing, and alot of Chinese citizens are really poor and only T1 cities do well.


superheater420

Must make great Xi happy


Reddit-username_here

That sounds like something someone who isn't number one would say.


LucidSpaceLizard

Nah as an American, I have to say… Americans are so stupid. Downvotes come when arguments can’t be thought of.


BlackManWithID

Cheese food


SandM1591

That's an odd looking apple...


nightmare_silhouette

What state is the American food from? My schools in NC never had shit like that


TreTrepidation

Both look shit.


366m4n89

Good Bot.


RawDawggsixTnine

both look like prison rations


Stizz83

Wow, China sounds AWWWWSOOOOMMME!!! /s


MaximusMansteel

Someone's farming for some social credits.


WakaFlakaPanda

I wonder if that meat, is the same meat, that caused good all Covid-19 or maybe it’s golden retriever. I would rather eat my shoe before finding out what’s going on that plate.


CoastNavigator

The worst thing about all the shitty things Americans put up with, is there’s so many better examples of how to do things right next door in Canada even, let alone in many other countries. Instead of putting effort into doing better Americans just chant “we’re number one!” louder and louder while the country crumbles around them. Glad I got the fuck out of that shit hole when I did, and fuck America.


biscovery

My school lunches were a lot better than this. It depends where you live.


CoastNavigator

Yeah, that’s the problem with America. The disparity between rich and poor is massive, and relatively few people get to live the kind of American dream lifestyle vs living in poverty. Even if you are doing ok you’re literally one hospital bill away from being in poverty for most of your life.


Reddit-username_here

We're glad you left too bud.


CoastNavigator

Me too, Canadians are so much fucking better than you assholes. As if living in poverty isn’t bad enough, Americans are constantly attacking each other and dragging each other down to the bottom as fast as they can. You probably can’t even imagine how big the contrast is moving somewhere where everyone helps raise each other up, instead of cutting each other down. Good luck in that fucking cess pool of humanity budsky.


Reddit-username_here

My life is awesome, but thanks though! I appreciate your well wishes!