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jaykell6ix

Thanks for all the help this season


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Beneficial_Quarter_4

do NOT tell your league mates


NYNA_LEVYN

Never help any of those MFs


dec92010

Why the fuck would you want to tell your league mates?


Undeadly123

This, Beersheets + Draftslayer, u/peakedinhighschool Trade Value chart put me in the playoffs every year. Make sure to support their causes if you win the 'ship.


eunit8899

I need to know what part of you wants to give such a big advantage away to your league.


Jesse_P1nkman

The bitch part


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I don’t know if I can bench the dolphins with the high number of sacks over the last 4 weeks. Tennessee is also giving up sacks


OMGitsKa

Don't be like me last week and drop the Dolphins after reading this post thus ending your season. Feels bad.


drshark628

Yup, switched them out for the chargers 😭😭😭


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DRSoccer5

My season would be over without Miami. It came down to the interception on 4th down.


jlucchesi324

Literally exactly the same for me. https://imgur.com/a/ZLhnEBz


3dot

Riding with phins. I’ve been using the strategy of picking a high ranked one in both subvertadown and https://www.rotoballer.com/week-17-defense-def-streamers-and-starts-2021-fantasy-tiers-rankings/980881 and it’s worked out great


usada_be_kidding_me

^this is great content


ImpressiveFollowing

I don't think I can sit TB vs the Jets but Miami has been so good that they're making me think I'm making a mistake haha


CaptainQuesadillaz

I'm all in on TB!


GhettoGringo87

Same. Started em all year and am not disappointed.


Astrophel37

Titans should be getting Lewan and Saffold back, but definitely hard to bench the best defense over the last 7 weeks against an offense that's been struggling.


No_Connection_7863

Same. I’ve compiled MIA, KC and CHI for this week. MIA and KC feel too good to sit, but everyone has CHI as the high end streamer but it feels like a trap


ryancubs

Bears fan here: idk who they’re playing but it’s a trap unless it’s the lions. Which will still disappoint you.


BSBledsoe

Bears "fan" who doesn't know who the Bears play this week, lol


kaelinlr

Jake Fromm and the giants


No_Connection_7863

Agreed, 99% sure I’m not gonna start them


wolferd15

Bears fan. Bears fuggin suck. Don’t play any of em.


FancyBBQ

I get to play against Josh Allen and the Patriots defense in the finals… I knew they’d be at the top of these rankings :(


Nolepharm

Don’t worry, I have Allen and pats d, so they should have an off week.


FancyBBQ

Ah yes, the duality of fantasy football. Don’t worry, there will be a sweet spot where they score enough to beat me and not enough to help you win!


latman

Bro if you're in the finals how can you think you're unlucky?


Nolepharm

Sometimes fantasy football gives you enough luck to make the finals, so it can then deliver a knockout kick to the nuts when it matters most


co_fragment

No need to make it personal


GhettoGringo87

Instead of stars you see nutsacks floating around. It sucks


TheGreatCensor

Haven't pats D been having off weeks for the last few weeks? I have had them on my bench fortunately with the Titans stepping up for me.


Number16

That's okay. I play the Rodgers/Adams stack + Jefferson + MAndrews. Should be fun.


nayrzepol

Me too but I’m hoping Josh Allen gets pulled after the first half lol


shupdawoop

Literally in the same boat


RobbieRum

I’m playing against josh Allen pats defense JT and kelce. Imma about to me molly wopped


honestly_dishonest

I get Stafford was bad last week, but I'll be damned if I go down playing Wentz or Jimmy G over him.


allsops

No kidding. Baltimore might be an all time bad pass funnel defense right now with an offense that can actually put up points even with their third string QB. Stafford could legitimately have the best passing game of his career this week.


honestly_dishonest

Right!? I just checked our scoring and he's qb5 on the year, ahead of Rodgers even. I'll die on this hill, he got me this far. Pivoting for one bad week is getting too cute.


yumyumpills

Hopefully we will get to watch Kupp destroy my Ravens 😂😭🤡


YoungWazir786

This is true because I pivoted to him from Kyler in one league last week and this week I play him in the finals in my other league


shmehdit

He’ll definitely be ranked over Wentz now


honestly_dishonest

Yea that makes it easier lol


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ss412

Well, Wentz took himself out of the running and Jimmy G isn’t looking like a sure thing either.


xDR3AD-W0LFx

I’m hoping my Stafford + Kupp stack grab me my first championship on my league of record. I’m talking 300+ yards, 3 - 4 TDs for Stafford and 120+ yards and 2 of those TDs going to Kupp


mikee216

Phins took me to the ship, im starting them


MrExtravagant23

Right there with you bud


Buildncastles

Tennessee gives up sacks like crazy. Those are guaranteed points and the phins pass rush has been legit. They won't put up another 20+ pt game but they'll still post respectable numbers for sure


biggiesmallsyall

I’m not as confident w Phins @ TEN as some of you. I think TEN got some juice back last game. I like PHI or CHI or even IND better.


CamWardsThrowaway

Conversely, you don’t think the Phins have *HAD* “the juice” and an insane level of confidence and swagger for the better part of 2 months now?


biggiesmallsyall

Not disagreeing w you, but they’ve had a cake walk the last two months. Look who they played. Hopefully this inspires them through TEN though.


CamWardsThrowaway

Agreed but it’s not like TEN has been a monster offense to play against. Our league has some unique setting and the last 6 weeks defenses have done the following against them: SF DST - 10 points PIT DST - 18.5 points JAX DST - 9.5 points NE DST - 16 points HOU DST - 19 points NO DST - 6.5 points This game has a 41.5 opening O/U (4th lowest of lines released so far). I’ll gladly chase the Sacks + TO opportunities MIA DST has been piling up against an offense that in the last 6 against comparable DST’s has put up a high point total of 23.


ohyouretough

Aj brown coming back def has changed titans offense.


kingd92

Texans, Jets, Panthers, Giants and Saints. Super cake walk. Ravens only good team they faced but Lamar has been taking a lot of sacks and turnovers. @Titans definitely the toughest matchup so far. AJ Brown was scary last week. But idk hard to sit Dolphins rn (49ers my other option).


jquist5

49ers could be a trap with the way that Davis Mills has been playing lately. Their secondary is not that great


kingd92

Yeah that’s my worry too.


bass2mouth44

Oh wow those are all the bottom tier offenses


paone00022

Indy lost quite a few players in their secondary to COVID today. Don't play them


Amenbacon

Does anyone have the guts to start the Bears? I could pick them up over the Eagles, but feel very nervous about it.


LordHumungus70

Giants fan here, we are without a doubt the worst team in the NFL right now. It is laughable to even suggest that we have an offense. I'd start the Bears with full confidence this week.


cohiba29

Torn between bears and eagles too. I typically go with the home team (bears) but keeping an eye on whether they shut Gibson down for the season.


bhollis66

I'm thinking of streaming the Bears over Dallas


AwskeetNYC

I spammed this sub to start the Eagles last weekend because the Giants were shit. The Bears D just doesnt score many points so I am rolling with the Eagles for a ceiling play and no better waiver options. BEWARE THE NINERS LAYING AN EGG THIS WEEK!


Asksthewrongquestion

Thanks for your service.


Idunkedonlebron23

Thank you for all of your hard work and dedication to this sub.


shmehdit

Thanks for all your work and insights all season. So glad I stuck with your Eagles D projection this week


MWM031089

49ers DST v Eagles DST is going to be on my mind all week up to kickoff. Lots of pros and cons to consider.


zswiss23

I have both and saints defense vs caronlina. It’s literally a coin flip and I have no idea what to choose


MWM031089

Meh I’m just gonna roster all of them and decide later tbh if I’m you. It’s what I plan to do with this collection anyway.


FranksGun

josh Johnson, Wentz and Mac Jones above stafford and burrow is lunacy. Very interesting to see though knowing how data driven these rankings are. Seems this model is never high on Miami d. They are legit. Vs titans is nowhere near as good a matchup as the depleted saints tho. So this model does have me seriously considering a pivot. Though I think they will be okay. Titans offense is not scary. But it’s not inept. And at home.


Swichts

Yeah, Burrow going apeshit against the Ravens gives me confidence In a big bounce back showing from Stafford. I mean, I don't have a choice but to start him, but, ya know


horg0034

DALLAS


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Struggling with this one. I also have the Colts D but Dallas is the reason I’m here.


SenorSnakeskin

Exact same situation. Leaning Colts, but only if they get their major pieces back off the COVID list this week


Grazer93

We have to roll them out with some confidence right??


honestly_dishonest

I'm going to. Rankings be damned that defense makes plays. I have KC and Philly too so benching them is tempting, but I think Dallas still puts up points.


bhollis66

I have Dallas and super worried vs Cards who just got their starting C back. Cards don't give up a lot of sacks or turnovers and Dallas has done their best against bad teams. I have Bears vs NYG and seriously thinking of streaming them.


pencilcasez

Counter argument is Cardinals haven’t done much without DHop. I’m leaning towards Dallas.


zzscrubzz

The cardinals fucking suck 😂 They've looked like shit the past 3 weeks now.


CriscoBountyJr

Missed their center and guard I think. They're getting them back this week. Should help Murray a bit. That said, as a Cardinals fan, you're right in that they have sucked for the past 3 weeks.


zzscrubzz

It'll help having them back - but idk if it'll be enough. Dallas D are a bunch of DAWGS right now.


trinidad162

I’m gonna ride or die with Dallas. They got me here.


horg0034

Without a doubt.


63663672

I have Miami and Dallas. So torn


Hinko

I appreciate these posts. The whole reason I even have Nick Folk and Dallas D is because of following Subvertadown every week. But there is no way I'm benching either of them now after they the year they have given me.


t-w-i-a

I have the Bucs and Dallas and I’m not really sure


NukeDog

Ugh me too, been holding Tampa for a month now waiting on that Jets matchup. I think I gotta stick with the plan and sit Dallas for them, much as it pains me to say


YouKnowWinkWink

Gotta go Bucs?! Jets are trash…


t-w-i-a

Yeah you’re right lol. Although Dallas has been looking great these last few weeks


YouKnowWinkWink

Easy to look good also feasting on trash! It’s Tampa’s turn


TheDolleyLlama

I have Dallas and Saints and will undoubtedly fuck it up


doodoofeces

Same dude. I’m so torn. Probably will be a last minute decision


panic_poo

I saved LAC and SF defenses to go back-to-back against HOU in the playoffs. After getting -3.00 from LAC because HOU remembered how to play football, I'm worried about playing SF against them this week. Should SF still be ranked so highly against a HOU team on a mini hot-streak?


WesternBookOfTheDead

SF an actually good defense. LAC not a good defense.


faurpower22

LAC was also without Derwin James and Bosa, arguably their two best DEF players


Robusto923

Curious why you have Wentz so high. Seems like the whole offense runs through JT. I have Kirk right now, but this is making me consider picking up Wentz. I have JT also, so that makes me nervous


shadow_the_cat

Moot point now unfortunately


Canadoc

Wentz out with covid


Salsa-N-Chips

Surprised we still arent seeing Dolphins D and seeing 49ers D so high up against a Texans team that has been putting up a decent amount of points over the last two weeks


Luckj

Does he rank every D/ST or just those widely available? It could be that the dolphins aren’t listed as they aren’t a streaming D.


Gekthegecko

All defenses. I assume his model weighs season-long performance way more than our recency biased opinions.


StayEnvy1

FOLK!


Wood5Pleb

Josh johnson at 5? Cmon lol


PM_ME_UR_SEX_VIDEOS

Thank you for everything this season


flowerpot69

I know Stafford had a bad week, but the Ravens just gave up 500+ yards to Burrow. This seems like a low ranking for him


fronteir

I have Stafford and Lamar. Whoever I pick will score <10 and the other will rock the high heavens. It is known


pablojwg

Bro honestly. Bless you. I’ve done this fantasy football shit for 5 years now. I made a profile to follow your post. Going to 4 out of 5 years going to the final. You are great help. This whole sub is awesome I’ve drank every koolaid their is one this sub and it has helped for better or worse. Let’s try to get a W and get a third championship in 5 years.


RIPKobe8-24

No love for Greg Joseph? Am I missing something here lmao is he not a good play this week?


Spiritual-Chameleon

Playing in GB, with potential bad weather


Knightvision27

It’s about to be 5 degrees there. It’ll be like kicking a rock in that environment


boogsuge

Joseph isn’t a top 10 option this week?


GoHawks12

I think I'm going to pivot to Hopkins. Weather supposed to be super cold in Green Bay..


boogsuge

Hmm I’ve stuck with Joseph all season and it feels weird not have him in my lineup for the finals lol. Is cold weather that bad for kickers?


boogsuge

It says on my yahoo app that Hopkins is on the Covid list


tchanners

My average points for K and Def is by far tops in my league. Wouldn’t be in the ‘ship without you.


turbodollop

Do I just start Dallas? They got me here.


BohnerSoup

So we all know how absolutely terrifying Dallas has been for offenses, would you play SF or Dal this week? I’m projected less than the guy I’m playing in the finals so trying to maximize efforts. I actually had SF in my waivers earlier but having such a tough time not playing DAL.


Kozlow

Am I crazy to keep rolling with the Chiefs against Cincinnati?


TheHurdleTurtle

Thanks for all your hard work brother it’s been greatly appreciated!


Danielrdn1

Have Saints and Bills, can’t decide who to play. Anyone have any ideas considering the difference in projection is .1?


trollanonymous

I can’t believe people are considering Saints DST for their championship match up. A good DST compliments a good offense. A shitty offenses will gas out a good defense, constantly having the defense on the field. Even with Hill back at QB, Bills offenses is still better and will be on the field longer for the defense to rest.


themuppett

The hope is that they get olineman back which will make a huge difference. Saints were decimated by covid and there’s no way they can play worse than what we watched last night


LordHumungus70

The Saints will be getting a lot of players back and are playing the god awful Panthers. They're one of the few defenses I've streamed this year thanks to subvertadown that has never disappointed. I had the Packers go negative on me last week, the Saints haven't gone negative all season. Even last night I still got 9.8 out of them thanks to their ability to get to the QB for sacks. Your point about a shitty offense gassing the defense actually helps the idea that the Saints are startable against Carolina's putrid offense. This isn't like the last time they played in week 2 where Darnold was rolling and they had a fully healthy CMC.


allislost81

I'm also rolling with the Saints. Panthers offense is significantly worse than the Saints offense with Hill. This is going to be a low scoring game. Miami has been on fire and only put up 13pts vs Saints defense if you don't count that Pick 6 last night. They also humiliated Tom Brady.


terriblegrammar

Yep, rolling with the Saints over the 49ers. I'm a panthers fan and our offense is a dumpster fire. I would be surprised if both QBs don't contribute to at least one turnover each and sacks are inevitable.


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WellThisIsMySafety

This seems odd to me. Cardinals aren't playing so hot, and the Dallas D is playing fantastic. It seems they should at least a top 10 play until they show otherwise.


Traveler_philly

Go with the eagles or pick up the bears??? Big $$$ on the line!


livejamie

Same here, I think the Giants are the worst team in the NFL and I'm leaning toward Chicago.


BLinK41_ATL

Do I stick with the Cowboys D or go with the Saints


ragekage8787

Look at it like this. Both play the late game. If opponent (or you) have a bunch of early game players, watch if you need a Boom D (Cowboys) or a Safe D (Saints).


FriendofAgency

If the Lions could handle AZ, then you better bet your ass I’m sticking with DALLAS


bhollis66

Offensively yes but the D only got 6 points. D/ST has not done well against Cards


CriscoBountyJr

Yeah Murray is hard to sack and they can still put up enough points to put a dent in the overall score. Cardinals have been losing but they're not the jets, wft, giants category. I have Dallas defense and Murray and Edmonds. I'm thinking of picking up the eagles just to avoid the mess of who to root for.


CdotLykins4

Thanks for everything this season!


chelo_delgado

Thanks very helpful! question: are you factoring in Trey Lance as QB for the kickers ranking I had Gould as a lock but having 2nd thoughts if Jimmy G doesn’t play


texanatheart

He has Garoppolo in his QB rankings so I imagine the kicker rankings are based on that.


chelo_delgado

in that case the question is: How the absence of JG affect his projection


subvertadown

Updated, thanks!


WhoseInMyMouth13

Slightly panicking about my kicker situation. Have Greg Joseph in an iffy matchup in cold ass GB. Butker is available on WW due to covid last week. Should I pivot? Boswell and Gould are also avaliable.


gayerthancumonabeard

Thank you for bringing nick folk. I will cherish him forever and he will win me this finals


MrSpookShire

If you guys had the choice between Gay and Folk, who would you roll with


AlexKamal_PitFighter

I like Folk this week. I know he's just had a couple duds, but he's in an absolute smash spot against the Jags. Almost every kicker has blown up against the Jags, and the Pats should have a comfortable lead the entire game, so they won't be passing up kicks on 4th down like the last few weeks.


Crinnle

I'm in the championship in my league thanks in part to these posts. Thank you for making them.


Ripcitytoker

Guys, should I droo Justin Tucker for Greg Zuerlein? Zuerlein has been way more consistent (in terms of fantasy output) than Tucker over the last 7 weeks. Over that time span Tucker has had three games where he scored less than Zuerleib did in his lowest scoring game over the same time period.


nickelchrome

Fuck I’ve been torn between 49ers, Eagles, or Colts D This doesn’t help my decision


Boltsfan9226

I’m literally in the same boat lol. I still don’t trust the eagles so I’ll wait until Sunday to see how Covid/injuries play out for SF and Indy.


nickelchrome

I’ve been set on SF for a while but watching HOU play this weekend sketched me out hard


Acstine

Decide between the home teams. Niners or Colts. If Waller out and Lance in, I’d go colts. If it’s Jimmy for the niners, I think it’s much closer and may veer niners but Davis mills is proving to not be a push over.


Lakers5824

If Judon is out, how much does that lower the Pats?


sillypinoy

It's against the jags.


jimbo1245

This. Bill lost 2 in a row and will take it out on poor Trevor


firefox15

Just awesome that you put the time into this. Thank you very much for not putting everything behind a paywall as well. Much appreciated!


BaXeD22

I have both Dallas v AZ and Miami vs TEN and both seem like great plays


BioEBear

You’re the man — this column helped my injury-ridden team even make it to the playoffs


Deathwishrok

Thanks as always! Thoughts on Dallas D vs ARI this week?


genmarlane

Thank you for everything you put into this weekly series - your work is always greatly appreciated!


scoopman24

Where does Trey Lance fit in this? Assuming Jimmy will be out.


lakersrams31

Colts or dolphins?


TheSmokedSalmon420

Tucker has gotten me to the Championship but I can't keep playing him with the Ravens QB situation


Mattsutaaki

Yeah I just have so little confidence, might go Badgley over him


eightykevs

I’m in the same boat. May pivot to Succop.


TheSmokedSalmon420

same


che55mastr

Thank you for all the help, u/subvertadown. You brought me to the ship this year!


Hywaystar74

I own Lamar, Huntley so I should add Johnson I guess lol


runtreesrun

Thank you so much, relied solely on these rankings for kickers and DST all season. I’m in the chip in 3/5 leagues


dec92010

Thank you for your help this season! I used your rankings to settle on folk early in the year and would stream defenses.


afc1886

Give me a reason why I shouldnt start the Dolphins defense at this point. I can't find one right now.


apop99

WE LOVE SUBVERT


TheShouldersofGnats

As others have said, thank you for your hard work and help this season. These charts have been great.


buffalobobs

Appreciate the time you put in, big dog. You’re a god.


GayLordFancyRod

So glad to have drafted Rogers late. TB12 would have been better ofc, but he still is always underrated. Dude can put up a 30pt game at any time.


FatBoyWithTheChain

I always seemed to pick the top ranked defense each week that went against the projections, but ultimately that's the name of the game. Awesome work all season. I hope you keep doing it; I'm happy to keep contributing to your work.


truwrxtacy

Surprised to see saints over the bucs


juce49

Thanks man. See you next season!


RezthePrez

So Lance over Taysom Hill this week?


SolarClipz

Have Pats and Niners LFG


t1runner

I’m between Colts, Titans and maybe Bears. Feels like with Wentz out, Colts might be a riskier play, so maybe slightly leaning Titans. And for some reason I do not want to hand over the keys to the championship to the bears defense. Just doesn’t feel right.


20wall

No Dolphins or Cowboys? That seems silly seeing as both of those Ds have been on a tear right now and likely helped get a lot of people in to their championship games


ViennaMalt

I can go Bears or Eagles. What do you guys think? I’m a Giants fan and I know just how bad they are, but I’ll be a little more concerned if they start Glennon. He’s trash but Fromm was so much worse.


IBETTERSTAYOFFLEAGUE

Bears have a solid D. giants are a dumpster fire. I’ve been holding the bears for this game since they random redditer said he heard from the owners grandsons acquaintance told his grandpa that Jones was out for the year.


dotcaIm

Thank you for everything this season king 🙏👑


Guacamole_Soup

Hurts or Dak? So tough.


spectre1006

Thank so much!


flipadelphia2846

Some feedback if you’re interested: * I see week 15 is bolded in the flex tab * Would it be possible to freeze the first column on the flex tab? Now that it’s late in the season it’s hard to line up which row is which on mobile * Would you expect cardinals TE to be higher with Hopkins still out? Thanks for all that you do!


court_cymro

Appreciate all the help this year, this has been a great source. Trying to decide between the Pats or Bucs D this week is a struggle, though.


fredyj

Am I crazy for sticking with Colts D?


court_cymro

Patriots D with Zuerlein as my kicker seems more or less as good as it gets. Glad I planned in advance, hope it pays off. Diolch for the help this season, much appreciated!


Alhambra_Lion

Thoughts on the Saints chances vs Carolina??


eisenreich

I've been riding the Dolphins DST for weeks, is it time to pivot to the Bears for the Ship?


steady_mobbin

I feel like I want to roll with the Eagles over the 49ers. Holding both


Former-Roman

Legend, thank you for the season


RDrewD2_

I’m going with the Bears D this week for all the money… only options I have on my team are KC or AZ and both don’t have great matchups. Hoping for another Fromm egg against the Bears!


FinrodFelagund_

Thank you for your service! Also, I’m torn and can’t decide between the Bills or Saints D.


Dredd_Pirate_Barry

I don't see how KC didn't atleast make the list


Locked_Lamorra

Is Huntley a good play if no lamar? It's him vs mac Jones/Hill on the wire.