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Beefsquatch_Gene

Vasectomies don't prevent STDs, demand a condom regardless of the claim.


trumpstupid

Condoms also prevent spreading STDs


jjetsam

LOL — A bunch of years ago a guy tried to get me into his bed. I told him that I wasn’t on birth control. So he dropped his pants to show me his vasectomy scar. The scar he showed me ran down the front of his thigh from his crotch to his knee. I laughed so hard he drove me home. It’s still funny.


Uberpastamancer

I know it can be hard to override horniness, but I hope women refuse sex unless a condom is worn in addition to any other types of BC in play.


ellastory

Condoms are great. They protect you from STIs and unwanted pregnancy. Unless you’re in a long term relationship and you really trust your partner, condoms should always be a must!


Sithstress1

Yes!!! I am 40 yo, been on birth control over half my life. If sex is casual, a condom is involved. STDs still exist! I understand pregnancy is super in the spotlight now but even as an older woman STILL on birth control, you are strapping up if we’re not in a long term committed relationship. Vasectomy or not.


MolotovCockteaze

Exactly. You know the CDC says 1 in 5 people have an STD, and men do lie about not having STDs. There was that man in St. Louis who knowingly exposed at least 62 women to Aids, and gave it to at least 13 of then. I have had men cheat on me, and could have given me something, and I knew a girl who left her BF after he was secretly treating himself with medication after he got an STD from cheating but still exposed the GF to it. Thankfully she left him and didn't get it. A Vasectomy doesn't stop STDs And a man can prove he has had one by getting tested to prove he has no live sperm.


FabulousandStuff

Yeah I got chlamydia from a cheating ex. Gave it to my (now ex) best friend too. He was a peach.


Prowler1000

What boggles my mind about the states is that it's legal to lie about STDs


Uberpastamancer

Problem is, making it illegally to knowingly lie about having an STD makes some people refuse to get tested


Prowler1000

Then in that case, also make it illegal to lie about getting tested. People have been prosecuted in Canada for not disclosing that they have HIV. (The law includes them all, but it's mainly been prosecutions for HIV)


Uberpastamancer

It's the knowing part. If they get tested they know, so strict laws would punish them. If they don't get tested they don't know, so those laws wouldn't touch them. So people just don't get tested.


Prowler1000

Okay, again, so make it illegal to lie about being tested. "Hey, before you come over, you've been tested for STDs since the last time you've had sex, right?" They lie and you get an STD, that's literally their confession in writing. They tell the truth but say they're clean, also a confession in writing.


Uberpastamancer

That puts the entire onus on the woman. It comes down to harm reduction, yes these people deserve punishment, but it comes at the cost of definite increases in STD spread


ilomilo8822

That last bit is a really good fucking point. I'll be asking for live sperm tests too thanks for the tip.


Sithstress1

Exactly!


warbeforepeace

And then be fucked when you get stealthed.


Uberpastamancer

If you find out file a police report. Save evidence if you can, disgusting as it may be.


warbeforepeace

In some states if you end up pregnant you may be forced to have the baby.


Uberpastamancer

Then at least you can prove who did it. Also it's some form of sexual assault Small consolation


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REFUSE SEX TO REPUBLICANS!!!!! Ask who they voted for and make it clear why they’re being rejected. Maybe want of pussy will override their want for a tax break. Hit ‘em where it hurts!


LilGreenCorvette

A lot of dudes are going to lie about voting for trump :\


Bahamabanana

Yep. Condoms are the way to go. In fact, I'd say it's best to only use your *own* condom. Or get a completely new pack together with the new shipmate, to minimize risk.


Vaadwaur

Yeah they lied well before it could cost them sex, this won't be a new lie.


CAisonfire

Back when I was dating, I didn't ask who they voted for. I just asked what I called 'screening questions' before giving out my number. 1. How do you feel about Black Lives Matter? 2. How do you feel about Trump? 3. How do you feel about the vaccine? Short answer format is *much* more informative than yes/no questions.


Chumbucket22

The thing I’ve seen most on OkCupid is “other political beliefs” it’s an immediate swipe left for me.


Motashotta

Yeah but you shouldn't fuck someone without a condom on the first date anyway. When it comes to a second one, you can probably already sniff out his conservative "morals".


LonelyGnomes

God damn, never have I ever been happier to be a lesbian than in a post roe world. Men sound like shit. I used to be sad I’d never have bio kids but now? God himself couldn’t give me enough to be interested in a penis


bibliophile14

I know you don't currently want children but you can have bio children if you're a lesbian, your uterus doesn't shut itself off 😜 you just do it different.


Chocoholic42

They'll just lie. As to see his voter ID. If it says Republican, dump his ass. I would be suspicious of Independents, too.


WhySoManyOstriches

Haven’t guys been lying about political party on apps?


joggle1

I don't know about all states, but in Colorado you can look up someone's party registration if you know their birthdate, name and zip code. About a third of registered voters are independent so that doesn't necessarily help. You can also look up someone's political contributions at [fec.gov](https://www.fec.gov/data/receipts/individual-contributions/?two_year_transaction_period=2022&min_date=01%2F01%2F2021&max_date=12%2F31%2F2022) with just their name. But if they have a common name you might find contributions from someone else instead. You can set a date range and a name using the 'edit filters' link.


Chocoholic42

I wouldn't want to see the app. I would want to see a hard copy of the voter registration card he got from the state when he registered to vote. And even then, I would still be suspicious.


hotpokkitz

You can just go online and put in his name and address as if you’re him trying to find his polling place and it’ll say. I’ve kept tabs on family members this way.


velocistar_237

Oh that’s genius!


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Idk about the Independent part. I'm registered Independent so I can decide which primary I want to vote in, and because it cuts down on the political junk mail.


Chocoholic42

Good point. I guess I just don't trust most men right now.


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For good reason.


kittenpantzen

Eh. I'm in an open primary state, but if Texas had closed primaries, I'd be registered as a Republican. The primary election might as well be the general election for all of the races on my ballot. I vote in November, but my vote only really counts for anything in the Spring.


Thrashlock

It really is time to go full Lysistrate.


SpouseofSatan

I'm glad I have a consistent partner, and I'm on BC. I'm soooo allergic to latex, and I don't like caring my own condoms around, also, theres no real one size fits all when it comes to non latex.


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SpouseofSatan

My bf is too small (too skinny) for condoms. We've tried every brand, even ordered specialized ones made for people like him, and they were too big. With his ex he'd order from one condoms I think it's the brand name, but in the US they only do latex. I'm on depo, which has worked so far lol. He might maybe get a vasectomy at some point, but I want kids somewhere down the line, so maybe not. At least not for a while.


WhySoManyOstriches

(You probably tried- but shot in the dark- kimono brand?)


SpouseofSatan

Sounds about right, but we've ordered and bought so many, literally wasting hundreds of dollars, that I'm not positive what all we've tried. But we're happy how we are now. Lack of condom wise at least lol. As a side note, anyone know where we could donate an open, but mostly there box of condoms? PP maybe?


canoodlebug

I don't think anywhere takes donations of opened condom boxes? that would be a pretty big risk, considering someone could've poked holes in them


SpouseofSatan

Ah I didn't think of that


MolotovCockteaze

The polyurethane ones aren't bad. I would buy some anyway. You don't want a man to think that your allergies are an excuse they can use to not use anything.


SpouseofSatan

I mean, it's mostly because I don't like condoms either, and neither of us have STDs so we don't need them for that, we also get checked every six months. And I'm on BC, so I'm not getting pregnant anyways, and we've been together about 2 years now. If I ever decide I want a different partner, and not him, I'll use them to prevent STDs until we both get checked and/or treated.


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Provide your own condom, and put it on yourself or have him put it on in your presence.


Uberpastamancer

And if you find out he removed it file a police report


FlayR

PSA though, an ill fitting condom is a condom that is going to break.


SpicyReptile

That, or come off during sex. Had that happen to me once. It was such fun fishing it out of me. And then I got chlamydia ):


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YUP. My friend had an ‘oops’ baby by a guy who ‘had a vasectomy’. He bounces between his girlfriend and grandma and never answers the door when they try to serve him papers. Apparently that’s all it takes in Texas to dodge child support for 12 YEARS 🙄


Ryukotaicho

I can be told a gun has no bullets but I’m not going to let it be pointed at me without a bullet proof vest


RaptorPrime

Even with a vest fuck that


SOUNDEFFECT94

The gun goblin always loads the gun when you’re not paying attention. Even if it’s empty that thing is still loaded


sailirish7

Thank you. I am stealing this.


MightyMrFish

Not if the gun goblin steals it first.


Danivelle

Me too!


Xyrus2000

Always insist on condoms. Don't treat STDs like Pokemon. You don't want to catch them all. Aside from that, yes you are well within the right to ask for proof of a vasectomy. It's way too easy to lie about that.


Virtual-Librarian-32

THIS. Even if they have been snipped, it is smart to have condoms bc firing blank’s doesn’t mean you’re not dirty.


goldensunshine429

And vasectomies are not 100% fail proof. There can be a reconnection after surgery, which is why you’re supposed to get a semen analysis done 3 months after.


saints21

For those of you who are uneasy about this with your partners, it's less and less common now due to changes in how they're done. Vasectomies used to just be a clip or even just pinching off the tubes. Now they've moved to removing a piece out of the middle and stitching or cauterizing the ends. Still, get checked out after your 3 months. Source: The urologist who did my vasectomy.


LiekaBass

Mine did all three. Cut the middle out, clamped and cauterized.


onlyawfulnamesleft

Mine smelt like bacon! Put me off cooked breakfasts for a bit.


LiekaBass

This is hilarious and absolutely reinforces the correctness of my decision at the time to do the twilight anesthesia rather than just local. Thank you VA!


VibrantVioletGrace

My partner (who's male) had a choice whether he wanted the vas deferns cut and ends burned or cut, segment removed, and ends burned.


VexillaVexme

And it's wise to get it done annually for a couple years after, and then every couple after that.


goldensunshine429

Yep. I have heard of a few guys who had babies after they got snipped (but, to the points others made, they have adapted the procedure, much like some female sterilizations are now scalpingectomies instead of tubal ligations)


sailirish7

You should have 2 of them done. I have a healthy sense of paranoia so one would be added to my annual checkup as well. Fun Fact: If you have VA healthcare, they will pay for a vasectomy.


LiekaBass

Yep! Can confirm, had one last November at 34, no questions asked. Which was refreshing. No “WhAt If YoU cHaNgE yOuR mInD” bullshit like when I initially went at 25.


MolotovCockteaze

This is true. My husband got his done for free and he is so glad he did.


Wild-Kitchen

It's like driving a car. You don't just have tyres with good tred. You also have brakes and seatbelts and airbags. As many safety measures in place to prevent injury in case of accident. Vasectomies, condoms, birth control... get as many barriers to those unwanted fertilisation as you possibly can. Safety first.


wilddreamer

Heck yeah. I have a friend who literally has one Fallopian tube, was on the pill, and whose partner was using spermicidal condoms, and she STILL got pregnant somehow. She chose to carry to term for personal reasons, and planned on her friend who was having trouble conceiving being the adopter. I’m still convinced it’s a miracle she got pregnant in the first place. 🤯


kittenpantzen

Multi-drug-resistant gonorrhea is out there, folks. And you do NOT want that shit.


hangryandanxious

Practice safe sex, y’all!


ChiAllTheTime

I don't get it. Is using condoms not common in the United States? The condoms you get are so thin it really feels like the real deal.


VictosVertex

I'm not against condoms but saying it feels like the real deal is just flat out wrong. I can feel even the thinnest "realfeel" condoms we use. That however doesn't change the fact that they are necessary. I can also feel a seatbelt and still put it on.


week7

You should never leave your contraception to anyone else, always have an active role where you can.


Vykrom

FYI There was a TIFU post that highlighted the fact that it can take up to 3 months to clear the pipes even for a valid snip so no matter how much you care about or believe a dude, get a date and base it on that, at the very least. 3 months


Virtual-Librarian-32

my hubby’s urologist wanted at least 40 emissions following the procedure and then he had to get his sperm tested to make sure he was firing blanks


Beneficial-Bluebirds

They should instruct you that you have to wait several weeks and X# of ejaculations before you get tested twice to make sure it worked.


saxclar1025

Dude, I got mine done March 9th and dropped off a sample June 20th (after lots of "clearing the pipes") and they called saying there were still some swimmers.


AddieBA

Don’t just wait 3 months and hope for the best. He needs to go back and have his ejaculate analysed to ensure there’s no sperm. Could even keep the lab results as proof I guess 🤔


BryKKan

Slight modification. Make sure they've been tested recently (post surgery). It doesn't matter even a little to wait 3 months if the surgery was unsuccessful. And it can also occasionally heal spontaneously, so in some cases a 10yr ago vasectomy is more risky than a 2mo ago one. The only thing that should give you any peace of mind is a recent test from a reliable lab.


Paladin_Wiggles

They don't really heal with the newer methods. Unless the doc half asses the job.


RoseyDove323

This fact is why one of my cousins exists. :')


Tanagrabelle

And, of course, once in a while it doesn't work.


Willuknight

I know a guy who fathered two children in 2 months because he told both girls (they were both under 20) that he was sterile.


VassagoX

If you don't know a guy well enough to know if he's being honest about a vasectomy, you should probably be using STD protection anyway. Condoms! STDs are still a risk, vasectomy or not.


wilddreamer

Sometimes you think you know a person though… So still, condoms. 🤷‍♂️


ComradeGibbon

Lot of people I know have a six month rule with condoms.


Sithstress1

Exactly!


Destination_Centauri

Protip: get a microscope and see for yourself! Part joking, but... part serious too: simply have him provide a sample in a cup, dab on slide, and within seconds you'll know if he's lying. Any basic intro $50 (give or take) microscope will do. BONUS: you can also use it for self-diagnosis of things like yeast infection! (By using online images of various infectious cell types, compared to your sample).


RavenClawedd

This is my favourite comment so far. Imagining women taking semen samples from guys and putting it under a microscope


kanadia82

Let’s be real - if the guy found out she had a sperm analysis lab in her closet, he’d WANT to provide a sample so he could look too!


bobbianrs880

If they weren’t at least curious to see then I wouldn’t want them anyway lol


Nikitatje3

I agree with this convo from finish to start. I'm _actually_ hyped for all badass people who are going to do this!


Rptro

lol you're absolutely right :D


dactyif

It's a bit of a horse before the cart situation though lol. My man already came, he's probably thinking of ways to do non horny things in your presence. But next time you're on like Donkey Kong.


Chaos43mta3u

Shit, I had a vasectomy 3 years ago. I might buy a microscope just so IM sure it was effective


Virtual-Librarian-32

BuT YoU KiLLEd tHe mOoD 🤦‍♀️ Edit: i own a STEM uterus and approve of this


7937397

If a guy doesn't like it, leave him. This is amazing.


Gwerch

>Edit: i own a STEM uterus and approve of this I love that! Own a STEM uterus too :)


phaiakia

third STEM uterus, also very entertained


claudia_grace

OMG, I really want to do this now!


iekiko89

You joke but its actually pretty easy to feel the "knots" in the lines to the testicles. No idea if that's true for all vasectomy's


theLucubrator

This is FANTASTIC. Also--the vas deferens can REATTACH after getting snipped; people with vasectomies need to check at least every 6 months, and a microscope is the perfect way for us to double check. LOVE this.


LiekaBass

Someone said it earlier in the thread, but that was way more common with older techniques where they’d cut and cauterize or cut and clamp. Now they actually remove the middle portion and clamp and/or cauterize. Source: my urologist last November when I raised this concern, and who did all three.


HoaryPuffleg

Ha!! I read "and who did all three" and I was amazed that you had THREE vas deferens. It took me a minute to figure out what you meant.


LiekaBass

That’s hilarious. I wish I was that clever and had done it on purpose. 😂 On a related note, I actually only had one testicle at the time of my vasectomy. I had the left one removed like 6-7 years prior for an unrelated issue. My urologist let me keep it after removing it, and my wonderful girlfriend at the time put it in a Ball brand canning jar which we both absolutely childishly cackled about repeatedly over the years. I don’t have the same girlfriend, but I still have the jar and lefty. So technically I *still* have two testicles, one just isn’t always in close proximity to the other one.


wwtt1990

Had it done a couple years ago. Urologist snipped out a chunk. Then a stitch and cauterized both ends. Definitely wasn’t leaving anything to chance.


AlpacaOurBags

I watched the doctor do my ex husband’s. I’m convinced there ain’t no way his is coming back. Cut, burned and stapled. Just like my tubes.


WeirdguyOfDoom

Just telling the guy and pointing to the microscope might be enough in most case since the lying ones would get angry in an instant. "You can just trust me!" Fuck no.


Saucysauce

I welcome this because, as others posted, you're supposed to get tested a few times after getting snipped to ensure that it worked. I had 3 checks (6m, 1y, 2y) and holy cow this would have saved time, money, and honestly been fun to boot. I could have paid for the microscope for the cost of the testing (insurance wouldn't cover it).


amberwaves123

Wow that’s wild. Love this


Beneficial-Bluebirds

Or you could buy the home kit that indicates the presence of sperm.


Dragonsvnm

Doctor's make it very clear when you are getting your vasectomy that it does not protect against STD's. Any dude who resists condoms because he's snipped is still trash. The dudes who actually care about sexual health will have the receipts. Hell, most healthcare testing is maintained on an online database. I can freely share my most recent tests in an app on my phone.


duhh33

Pro-tip. Vasectomys can self-heal for a short period of time. Ask when they dropped off loads for verification too.


amalthea5

Yeah my bf is booking an appointment for a vasectomy since this happened. He knows it will be easier for him than me to get sterilized. I'm still working on getting a bisalp as well.


Russiadontgiveafuck

Yeah, I had my ex who had a vasectomy go get another sperm count before I had my iud removed. Not taking any chances.


Lokarin

A vasectomy doesn't prevent diseases, men should wear the condoms anyways


Plaguedispenser

Also FYI, when doing research for my own vasectomy. Men have dismal numbers when it comes to going back and getting it checked for efficacy. Low numbers for getting checked after the procedure one time, super low numbers on the second. My urologist requested two samples. One sample after 8 weeks and one after 16. Both need to be negative. Even then natural reversals are rare but still possible. 1/2000 chance is for sure a non-zero number. TLDR: Make sure there are multiple receipts and that they are recent.


hollimay85

Honestly, I'm getting sterilized so I can be 100% safe. I know I don't want children so this is the best option for me.


MartianTea

A vasectomy doesn't protect against STDs and now some of them that were easily cured are getting antibiotic resistance. Plus, stealthing and date rape were already common before all this and I'm predicting they are only going to increase. Let 2022 be the year of self-love until SCOTUS figures their shit out! Better to be safe than sorry.


WhySoManyOstriches

Always good to eventually get a mutual STD check & sperm count done at an early point.


Wouter_van_Ooijen

(Male) a snip doesn't protect against STDs, so a man who doesn't want a condom in anything but a stable long-term monogamic relation is at the very least taking chances with your (plural) health.


vuevue123

I always think of the It's Always Sunny episode with Bill Ponderosa. He straight up admits he's lying.


marcovigi259900

You can purchase sperm test kits at many stores. https://www.walgreens.com/store/c/spermcheck-fertility-home-sperm-test/ID=prod6094323-product If he really wants to go condom free, he can jerk off in a test kit first. If he can’t manage that, he probably wouldn’t be able to manage much else.


MolotovCockteaze

One for sperm and one for STDs


Wild-Kitchen

Bonus... if he jerks off into the cup before sex, he'll probably last longer during sex. Maybe more orgasms for women might come out of this


_DontBeAScaredyCunt

I had a guy tell me once I didn’t have to worry about getting pregnant because women only get pregnant if we orgasm. So as long as he didn’t make me cum he didn’t have to wear a condom. Really fucking convenient, right? I really wish I was joking.


ccwagwag

need a little blue tattoo like they put on spayed cats and dogs.


christmasshopper0109

Or cut of a corner of their ear like the feral cats. /s (mostly)


Tiny_Rat

Tattos can be faked. Doctors should microchip guys while they do the vasectomy, so you can scan the balls and check for a microchip registration number.


SluttyGandhi

Ok, so this is my favorite comment.


miraenda

They snip the ear on neutered feral cats as well. That would really stand out and say ‘I’m fixed!’


HotblackDesiato2003

I haven’t laughed so hard in days. This is ingenious. I know a lot of guys who would do that idea after a vasectomy simply for the visual gags.


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doingthebestyoucan

Impotent means unable to have/obtain an erection. I think you mean infertile.


kinetochore21

And people still also don't understand that infertility does not equal sterility.


VexillaVexme

Any urologist can do a semen analysis for not that much money. Mine will do one free, annually for anyone who has had a vasectomy there. Don't settle for anything less, if it's important to you.


Frangiblepani

Never take a man at his word that he's had a vasectomy. To be sure, always perform the surgery yourself, immediately before sex!


Wild-Kitchen

This made me laugh


grace_boatrocker

yup . it was like that pre.roe


fromwayuphigh

Everyone involved should just insist on condoms. I had my snip 11 years ago and if you think it's reasonable to have receipts from an outpatient procedure over a decade ago (or honestly keep them at all - what was I going to do, return it?) you live a very different life to mine.


birdieponderinglife

Get a sperm analysis when you go in for STI testing. If you’re dating then you should be doing that regularly anyways.


isfpfish

Get the testing that confirms you are sterile. They test to confirm the success of the surgery.


gregra193

You can request the records from the facility you had it done at. If they’ve closed, your states public health department can direct you to the records.


Ok-Lengthiness446

Personally, I have my microscope handy to confirm their sample has no sperm, which will be required for vaginal consideration. If they don’t cough it up, they’re lying or just not worth it. After the procedure there’s a chance sperm can get through which decreases over a handful of weeks, but even after there’s still a very small chance some sperm could get through, however small is still possible. Condoms still required impo.


Kallymouse

Unless you're in a committed relationship, be responsible with your own birth control


WomanLady

Even if you are in a committed relationship you must remain responsible. Do I like him enough to fuck only him? Yes. Cool, that's not enough anymore. Do I like him enough to reproduce with him and to be tied to him through a child, in laws, and a court system for the next 20 years? Do I like him enough to forcibly bear a child riddled with disease that cannot be aborted bc my own life is not technically in danger? Do I like him enough to use every hour of my job's sick, vacation, and maternity leave 9 months from now? Do I like him enough to pay the "mommy tax" of putting my education and career on hold? Do I like him enough for an episiotomy? Do I like him enough to go into medical debt with the hospital? If not or if you don't know, then don't risk it, there is no turning back now. 2 forms of birth control today and everyday unless you're ready to be a mom tomorrow.


USS_TinyPigeon

Yall need to start taking pictures of drivers licenses for every man you hook up with. Save them for if the day comes that you do get pregnant and hook them up to child support immediately. I had a guy tell me he had a vasectomy one time under the premise of getting out of using a condom. Where are the receipts? Yeah, no put it on or get out. Bye 👋🤣


SteinbeckSawIt

Oh my gosh, this is wild. I had a vasectomy about 2 years ago and outside of lab work there is zero percent chance you could tell.


sanityjanity

Even if he has had a vasectomy, if it was recently, he still needs to go back to confirm a zero sperm count. When vasectomies fail, it's often from having unprotected sex too soon.


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Havishamesque

What is with that?? I genuinely don’t get it. I love sex - I miss sex - but I’m not going to turn into a brain dead moron, promising to donate a kidney just to get laid. Women don’t (as a rule) beg and plead strangers for sex. It’s bizarre.


Winowill

Most women have experienced a guy going to great lengths of deception to get in her pants. Promises of love and commitment, promises of infertility, statements of their relationship status. While I am sure it happens the other way too, the rate of violence, manipulation, and other negative behaviors is more common from male to female. Just because it isn't you doesn't make it less true.


MolotovCockteaze

Lots of men do. I have been told by men this even. Because I always said I wouldn't havesex unless the person has asked to be my BF etc, and we both want a LTR and guys have said they if they find out they will ask you to be their GF and say they want a LTR, just hoping it will get them some and as soon as they get sex they dump you the next day. You ever see the movie KIDS? Too many men are nasty just like the characters in that movie. the excuse seems to be that women don't HAVE to beg because "they can get laid anytime they want" 🙄 Which is just a disgusting excuse.


purpleuneecorns

Yup, and people say women are the manipulative ones. It truly baffles me.


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Had a guy in another thread telling me that if a guy is deceptive, the consent still stands, and it’s the woman’s fault for falling for it. I’m like ‘you need to do some souls searching bro’


Wild-Kitchen

I either I could be surprised but it's clearly obvious that alot of penis owners are willfully ignorant about the concept of consent. I've seen people saying that if she doesn't violently scream no then it's consensual. And then of course some of them will claim she was playing out a rape fantasy. All this makes me want to have my genitals surgically removed and whatever controls hormones.


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Just know that you’re not being ‘hysterical’ about how guys treat us. I’m 43. I’ve given guys way too much of the benefit of the doubt for way too long. “Guys are only after one thing” is so much of a universal fact it should be engraved in stone. 😒


Solaskitten

Women are also the emotional ones, don't forget! /s Can't say I or many of the women I know have ever punched a wall out of anger, but at least half of guys I know even casually will admit to putting holes in walls or breaking fingers hitting something that won't give...


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MolotovCockteaze

True, but there are times it has failed and that doesn't mean the women is lying, but if you just put a condom on no matter what the other person clames, then you are good. If any side suggests not to because they are on the pill or have had a Vasectomy, or will "pull out" Red flag.


Sure-Maintenance7002

My youngest cousin exists only because his dad lied about getting a vasectomy. My cousin is the best of his siblings but his mum never hid how he was unplanned and 'not entirely' wanted.


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Tiny_Watercress1406

Interesting idea. Maybe a STD test and a proof of vasectomy should be the new standard


ndfwguy

Damn.. I had a vasectomy in 2003. How the fuck am I supposed to get receipts? I get tested yearly for std, etc.


isfpfish

Get the testing that confirms you are sterile. They test to see if the vasectomy was a success.


gregra193

The place you got it done definitely has your medical records.


No_Cauliflower_5489

PSA: Dick ain't worth all this anxiety, ladies. A toy will never get you pregnant, give you a disease, cheat on you, or lie to you.


Tanyaschmidt

Yep, it’s getting ugly out there.


MissFifi1097

Tbh I don’t take men for their word until I see proof 🤷‍♀️


Don11390

Condoms should be a must anyway regardless of the snip-snip. Vasectomies don't prevent STIs/STDs.


Indaflow

It’s a dark world we are living in.


AtleastIthinkIsee

I don't think it's abnormal to just sit down and go over your medical histories, including and especially any kind of permanent birth control. Just showing paperwork of the procedure, receipts, etc. I honestly think it's just practical and it should be the norm.


Kioxel

Im so glad I transitioned, I dont produce sperm because of my meds, and my testicles show it by being soft and very small. I STILL WEAR CONDOMS. I cant use regular latex, for some reason I have had an allergic reaction one time and it ruined the night, now I have latex free and carry them on me ALWAYS. Any less than this is simply unacceptable now. Demand more, demand proof, demand to be treated like a HUMAN. ANY less is major red flag and should be blocked on all forms of contact. Its not all men, but its too damn many.


Kwiatkowski

the power move here would be to pull out a microscope and some slides, ask for a sample, confirm no squiggly bois.


Brainroots

You can observe living sperm under a cheap microscope at home, in case you want that. Vasectomys go bad. Over time, broken arteries create branches seeking their lost other end, and when they find each other they grow back together and start delivering sperm again. Oops. I know someone with twins on the way now because they trusted a vesectomy.


chicacherrycolalime

It should be absolutely no problem to get a sample tested at the doctor, and be there together for the appointments (sample and results). That's how my now wife and I did it, no big deal. >Caginess towards this should be an immediate red flag Exactly. If a guy is evasive or opposing at any point... He's full of it for one reason or another, and it's not your problem to deal with that. Obviously you don't do that for every hookup, but that just means sticking to condoms, at the least, until it gets serious enough.


delayedcolleague

Also keep in mind that it isn't 100% proof either, especially for a while after the procedure is done ["This is why doctors recommend that people use an alternative method of contraception for at least three months after the procedure. It’s estimated that about 20 ejaculationsTrusted Source are required to clear out all the sperm. Learn more about having sex after vasectomy."].(https://www.healthline.com/health/pregnancy-after-vasectomy#the-odds)


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LearningIsTheBest

Even if he did have one, they're not 100%. One of my coworkers had one and a year later his wife wound up pregnant. (The baby looks exactly like him and his other kids, in case anyone was doubting the wife)


Virtual-Librarian-32

Men will say anything to get that dick wet


ov3rcl0ck

I had my nut cut done 14 years ago. I don't have a receipt. My primary care did it for free. I guess you can look for the scars on my nutsack


androstaxys

If you don’t trust your sex partner to not lie then you probably shouldn’t have sex with them? This is a general pro tip for men and women OP.


elhawko

Hey all, he should have a little scar on both of his balls where the they made the incision to seperate the vas. Edit: feedback is my idea was crap. Dudes will need a photo of their 3 month sperm check on their phones I reckon


wattlewedo

Looking for healed scars on a plucked chicken.


TemperatureAlert2370

I was very tempted to check my boyfriend for the incision scars…but too many pubs to see anything 🤷‍♀️. He did show me the receipt without me asking and said he got 2 sperm count tests of zero so I feel like he is being honest about it.


elhawko

That seems like a fair amount of evidence lol


Frangiblepani

That's not enough of a giveaway to be sure, though. There are other reasons for scrotum scars, though. A twisted testicle is a fairly common thing to happen, and they might have just cut him open to untwist it.


AreYouEmployedSir

I had mine done five years ago and I’m pretty sure you would not be able to find a scar on me. They’re small. And ballsacks are pretty wrinkly.